From jniolon at att.net  Sun Jun  7 14:11:54 2026
From: jniolon at att.net (john niolon)
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2026 15:11:54 -0500
Subject: [Shop-talk] drill bit organization
References: <1UnDLk0Jyx.3X1VIV7Nb8D.ref@johns-desktop>
Message-ID: <1UnDLk0Jyx.3X1VIV7Nb8D@johns-desktop>

yard sale purchase for 10 bucks.. It 
wouldn't let me walk away without taking it home.  some fractional...some letter sized...  some number sized and some metric.   Maybe most I'll 
never use... but still
 
looking for organization ideas short of 50-100 bucks for a drill bit organizer 
cabinet.  About 30 envelopes with 3-12 bits in each envelope.  What ideas you 
got????
 
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From watsonm05 at comcast.net  Sun Jun  7 15:30:53 2026
From: watsonm05 at comcast.net (watsonm05 at comcast.net)
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2026 21:30:53 +0000
Subject: [Shop-talk] drill bit organization
In-Reply-To: <1UnDLk0Jyx.3X1VIV7Nb8D@johns-desktop>
References: <1UnDLk0Jyx.3X1VIV7Nb8D.ref@johns-desktop>
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Send them to me.  I'll store them for you ;-)
________________________________
From: Shop-talk <shop-talk-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of john niolon <jniolon at att.net>
Sent: Sunday, June 7, 2026 4:11 PM
To: shop-talk <shop-talk at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Shop-talk] drill bit organization

yard sale purchase for 10 bucks.. It wouldn't let me walk away without taking it home.  some fractional...some letter sized...  some number sized and some metric.   Maybe most I'll never use... but still

looking for organization ideas short of 50-100 bucks for a drill bit organizer cabinet.  About 30 envelopes with 3-12 bits in each envelope.  What ideas you got????

[cid:1UnDLk0Jyi.2TkFKZ2Nk3Y at johns-desktop]
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From dave1massey at cs.com  Sun Jun  7 15:47:58 2026
From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY)
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2026 21:47:58 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Shop-talk] drill bit organization
In-Reply-To: <1UnDLk0Jyx.3X1VIV7Nb8D@johns-desktop>
References: <1UnDLk0Jyx.3X1VIV7Nb8D.ref@johns-desktop>
 <1UnDLk0Jyx.3X1VIV7Nb8D@johns-desktop>
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You mean something like this:
https://tinyurl.com/ydh7v2jk
Dave 


 

    On Sunday, June 7, 2026 at 03:34:27 PM CDT, john niolon <jniolon at att.net> wrote:   

  yard sale purchase for 10 bucks..?It wouldn't let me walk away without taking it home. ?some fractional...some letter sized...? some number sized and some metric.?? Maybe most I'll never use... but still?looking for organization ideas short of 50-100 bucks for a drill bit organizer cabinet.? About 30 envelopes with 3-12 bits in each envelope. ?What ideas you got?????_______________________________________________

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From jniolon at att.net  Sun Jun  7 15:59:40 2026
From: jniolon at att.net (john niolon)
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2026 16:59:40 -0500
Subject: [Shop-talk] drill bit organization
In-Reply-To: <191079809.788214.1780868878373@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1UnDLk0Jyx.3X1VIV7Nb8D.ref@johns-desktop>
 <1UnDLk0Jyx.3X1VIV7Nb8D@johns-desktop>
 <191079809.788214.1780868878373@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1UnDLl0MMS.5eQPr3KA7pi@johns-desktop>

yea David...but drawers 
aren't long enough... I need at least 6" for the medium sized bits
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com>
To: shop-talk <shop-talk at autox.team.net>, john niolon <jniolon at att.net>
Sent: 06/07/2026 4:47:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] drill bit organization



You mean something like this:


https://tinyurl.com/ydh7v2jk


Dave 









On Sunday, June 7, 2026 at 03:34:27 PM CDT, john niolon <jniolon at att.net> wrote: 




yard sale purchase for 10 bucks.. It wouldn't 
let me walk away without taking it home.  some fractional...some letter 
sized...  some number sized and some metric.   Maybe most I'll never use... but still
 
looking for organization ideas short of 50-100 bucks for a drill bit organizer cabinet.  About 30 envelopes with 3-12 bits in each envelope.  What ideas you got????
 

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From dirtbeard at gmail.com  Sun Jun  7 17:26:01 2026
From: dirtbeard at gmail.com (Douglas Shook)
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2026 16:26:01 -0700
Subject: [Shop-talk] Oil spill solution
Message-ID: <CAG1pxgZMs2EF_Gjopb2uSJgJ16+kjFMeSuv3aXgdKkwH=CN9tQ@mail.gmail.com>

HI guys,

I am probably the last person on the planet to know this, but I recently
bought Zep Instant Spill Absorber because the auto parts store did not have
cat litter.

I have to say that it is the best stuff I have ever used.

Period.

I recently changed the filters and replaced the ATF in the transmissions of
my GMC Savana and Cadillac ATS, spilling ATF, of course, in various places
around the garage.  If you have ever done automatic transmissions, you know
how badly ATF seems to spread everywhere and what a pain it is to clean up
properly.

I was struggling with rags and paper towels to clean it up until I
remembered I had this stuff and gave it a shot.

It was amazing! Simply amazing!

If you just get it near oil, it seems to suck it up and then transforms
into clean "sweepable sand."

A tiny bit will absorb large quantities of oil and it leaves the surfaces
clean and dry.

I will never use cat litter again.
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From dmscheidt at gmail.com  Sun Jun  7 19:05:22 2026
From: dmscheidt at gmail.com (David Scheidt)
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2026 20:05:22 -0500
Subject: [Shop-talk] drill bit organization
In-Reply-To: <1UnDLk0Jyx.3X1VIV7Nb8D@johns-desktop>
References: <1UnDLk0Jyx.3X1VIV7Nb8D@johns-desktop>
Message-ID: <4B17AC80-DC8D-48F2-B49A-5C012769E25E@gmail.com>

I have indexes with my working bits.  Spare bits are stored in ziplock bags. Each size gets a bag, labeled on both sides, and then the bags go into a bigger bag. They were once in order, but it?s still easy enough to find the right bag.  Stuff larger than about 1/4 comes in a plastic box, and they stay in them. The whole lot, plus spare (and weird size )taps, goes in a drawer in the odd stuff toolbox. 

> On Jun 7, 2026, at 15:26, john niolon <jniolon at att.net> wrote:
> ?
> yard sale purchase for 10 bucks.. It wouldn't let me walk away without taking it home.  some fractional...some letter sized...  some number sized and some metric.   Maybe most I'll never use... but still
>  
> looking for organization ideas short of 50-100 bucks for a drill bit organizer cabinet.  About 30 envelopes with 3-12 bits in each envelope.  What ideas you got????
>  
> <IMG_1693.jpeg>
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From markmiller at threeboysfarm.com  Tue Jun  9 02:22:56 2026
From: markmiller at threeboysfarm.com (Mark Miller)
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2026 01:22:56 -0700
Subject: [Shop-talk] drill bit storage
In-Reply-To: <mailman.5.1780941604.24519.shop-talk@autox.team.net>
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I'd add a 1 page inventory sheet with size and quantity of each. And for 
the numbered and lettered bits the decimal equivalent as well.? If you 
want to be fancy do it in a spreadsheet and have a printout.......

Regards,

Mark Miller   707-490-5834
markmiller at threeboysfarm.com

> Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2026 20:05:22 -0500
> From: David Scheidt<dmscheidt at gmail.com>
>
> I have indexes with my working bits.  Spare bits are stored in ziplock bags. Each size gets a bag, labeled on both sides, and then the bags go into a bigger bag. They were once in order, but it?s still easy enough to find the right bag.  Stuff larger than about 1/4 comes in a plastic box, and they stay in them. The whole lot, plus spare (and weird size )taps, goes in a drawer in the odd stuff toolbox.
>
>> On Jun 7, 2026, at 15:26, john niolon<jniolon at att.net> wrote:
>> ?
>> yard sale purchase for 10 bucks.. It wouldn't let me walk away without taking it home.  some fractional...some letter sized...  some number sized and some metric.   Maybe most I'll never use... but still
>>   
>> looking for organization ideas short of 50-100 bucks for a drill bit organizer cabinet.  About 30 envelopes with 3-12 bits in each envelope.  What ideas you got????
>>   
>> <IMG_1693.jpeg>
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From bk13 at earthlink.net  Wed Jun 10 16:06:54 2026
From: bk13 at earthlink.net (Brian Kemp)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2026 22:06:54 +0000
Subject: [Shop-talk] Old toolbox combo lock
Message-ID: <17261897-a3ed-97c3-ad3f-c43081e0ad4a@earthlink.net>

Anyone know how to work the combo lock on the attached old wooden toolbox?  It was my dad's and I'm trying to open it to see what is inside.  There is a combination taped to the back of the toolbox, so I think I know it.  I just can't figure out the turns.


If you don't mind, please include my e-mail in your reply as I can't seem to stop team.net e-mails from being threated as spam.


Thanks,


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From bk13 at earthlink.net  Wed Jun 10 16:56:03 2026
From: bk13 at earthlink.net (Brian Kemp)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2026 22:56:03 +0000
Subject: [Shop-talk] Old toolbox combo lock
Message-ID: <0433ae3a-46de-bb8d-6e54-45dba5c35c7f@earthlink.net>

John - Thanks.  It was a variation of method one.  I stopped at the last number then turned the dial to the right about 3 numbers to pull the latches.


Lots of vintage tools.


Brian
-----Original Message-----
From: John Innis <jdinnis at gmail.com>
Sent: Jun 10, 2026 3:36 PM
To: Brian Kemp <bk13 at earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Old toolbox combo lock


These typically work on single turn R-L-R pattern.  
Turn the dial to the right, at least full revolution, then continue turning right to the first number.  
Turn Left to the 2nd number directly (do NOT do a full turn first).  
Then turn right to the 3rd number directly, again, not making a full turn first.  


This pattern works on very simple combination locks found on some toolboxes.  If that pattern does NOT work try this:
Turn the dial to the right, at least THREE full revolutions, then continue turning right to the first number.  
Turn Left one full revolution, past the first number, then turn to the left to the 2nd number
Then turn right to the 3rd number directly, not making a full turn first.  
 
One of these two patterns should work on 95% of the dial combination locks out there.




On Wed, Jun 10, 2026 at 5:21?PM Brian Kemp <bk13 at earthlink.net (mailto:bk13 at earthlink.net)> wrote:

Anyone know how to work the combo lock on the attached old wooden toolbox?  It was my dad's and I'm trying to open it to see what is inside.  There is a combination taped to the back of the toolbox, so I think I know it.  I just can't figure out the turns.


If you don't mind, please include my e-mail in your reply as I can't seem to stop team.net (http://team.net) e-mails from being threated as spam.


Thanks,


Brian
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From jniolon at att.net  Mon Jun 15 07:54:35 2026
From: jniolon at att.net (john niolon)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2026 08:54:35 -0500
Subject: [Shop-talk] yard sale score
References: <1UnDUOxkvK.3fYatXi9fgk.ref@johns-desktop>
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local yard sale... clearing out 
dad's old house... found a box with drill bits... asked price  $10.00.  Snatched it up and 
came home with about 100 bits new in the envelope.. most metric and letter sizes...but still.  From 1/64 up thru 61/64. Gave half to my cruising buddy 
and sorted mine.  Too many for a regular index so this was my solution from Michael's.
 
john

 
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From tims_datsun_stuff at outlook.com  Sun Jun 28 08:42:41 2026
From: tims_datsun_stuff at outlook.com (Tim .)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2026 14:42:41 +0000
Subject: [Shop-talk] OBD2 scanner
Message-ID: <MN2PR14MB28628F9997BE0DF6FA164CC0B4E92@MN2PR14MB2862.namprd14.prod.outlook.com>

Does any one here have/use a smart phone OBD2 scanner?

Please chime in with thoughts and experiences.

Thanks
tim
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From mayfield+shoptalk at sackheads.org  Sun Jun 28 09:36:16 2026
From: mayfield+shoptalk at sackheads.org (Jimmie Mayfield)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2026 11:36:16 -0400
Subject: [Shop-talk] OBD2 scanner
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I have one.? I've only ever needed to use it with the "Car Scanner" 
Android app to diagnose a O2 sensor problem but it was kind of neat to 
let it run while driving and monitoring the various sensors.? Later I 
upgraded my stereo head unit to a Kenwood unit that has a permanent ODB2 
connection and has a built-in "Gauges" app that shows real-time info for 
things like engine load % and transmission fluid temp.

J


On 6/28/26 10:42, Tim . wrote:
> Does any one here have/use a smart phone OBD2 scanner?
>
> Please chime in with thoughts and experiences.
>
> Thanks
> tim
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From doug at dougbraun.com  Sun Jun 28 09:51:14 2026
From: doug at dougbraun.com (Doug Braun)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2026 11:51:14 -0400
Subject: [Shop-talk] OBD2 scanner
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They're quite inexpensive and much better than no scanner at all. You can
keep one in the glove box of each of your vehicles. I use the "Torque" app
on Android.

Doug

On Sun, Jun 28, 2026, 11:46?AM Tim . <tims_datsun_stuff at outlook.com> wrote:

> Does any one here have/use a smart phone OBD2 scanner?
>
> Please chime in with thoughts and experiences.
>
> Thanks
> tim
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From dirtbeard at gmail.com  Sun Jun 28 10:12:02 2026
From: dirtbeard at gmail.com (Douglas Shook)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2026 09:12:02 -0700
Subject: [Shop-talk] OBD2 scanner
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I only have a standalone tool, but ran a comparison

? Concise Takeaway
Stand?alone scanners are faster, more reliable, and better for quick,
no?nonsense diagnostics.
Phone?based OBD2 adapters are more powerful, more flexible, and better for
live data, logging, and advanced features.

? Side?by?Side Comparison
Below is a structured comparison using the most representative examples
from your shopping results:

Standalone:

Motopower MP69033 (simple, rugged, plug?and?go)

ANCEL AD310 (classic, reliable, inexpensive)

Phone?based:

BlueDriver Bluetooth Pro (full-featured, pro?grade app)

OBDLink MX+ (fast, secure, excellent logging)

To make this scannable, here?s a qualitative comparison table:

Standalone Scanner
Motopower MP69033 / ANCEL AD310
Fast
Simple
No Setup
Phone Adapter
BlueDriver / OBDLink MX+
Most Features
Live Data
Logging
Basics
Ease of Use Instant plug?and?read Requires phone + app
Speed Very fast Fast, depends on phone/app
Reliability High, no wireless issues Can vary (Bluetooth, app updates)
Capabilities
Read/Clear Codes Yes Yes
Live Data Limited Extensive, customizable
Freeze Frame Yes Yes
Mode 6 Sometimes Usually
ABS/SRS Rare Supported on higher-end apps
Bi?Directional No Sometimes (BlueDriver limited, OBDLink depends on app)
Practical Use
Garage Durability Excellent Good (depends on phone)
Power Self?powered Uses phone battery
Data Logging Minimal Excellent (graphs, logs, export)
Vehicle Coverage Basic OBD2 Often broader, with enhanced OEM data
Ownership
Price $29?$49 $129?$139
Long?Term Use Never obsolete App updates may change features
Best Use Case Quick checks, simple diagnostics Deep diagnostics, logging,
analysis
Sources:

BlueDriver
+4
BlueDriver. BlueDriver Bluetooth Pro OBDII Scan Tool for iPhone and Android
Amazon.com. Obdlink MX+ OBD2 Bluetooth Scanner For iPhone, Android, And
Windows
Veepeak. Veepeak OBDCheck BLE Bluetooth OBD-II Scanner
Newegg.com. MOTOPOWER MP69033 Car OBD2 Scanner Code Reader Engine Fault
Scanner CAN Diagnostic Scan Tool For All OBD II Protocol Cars Since 1996,
Yellow
ANCEL. ANCEL AD310 Classic Enhanced Universal OBD II Scanner

? What This Means for Real?World Use
Standalone Scanners ? Strengths
Instant results: Plug in ? codes appear. No pairing, no app crashes.

Great for older vehicles (like your GMC Savana or classic projects).

Rugged: Works in cold, heat, dirty garages.

No phone dependency: Useful when your hands are greasy or battery is low.

Cheap: $30?$50 gets you a reliable tool.

Standalone Limitations
Minimal live data (slow refresh, few PIDs).

No logging or graphing.

No enhanced OEM modules (ABS, SRS, transmission).

No bi?directional tests.

? Phone?Based Adapters ? Strengths
Massive capability jump: Live data, graphs, logs, freeze frame, Mode 6,
custom dashboards.

Enhanced OEM support (BlueDriver especially).

Great for intermittent issues: You can log a drive and review later.

Fast refresh rates (OBDLink MX+ is one of the fastest).

Expandable: Different apps for different vehicles (Torque, Car Scanner,
BimmerCode, Hybrid Assistant).

Phone?Based Limitations
Bluetooth pairing issues happen.

Phone battery drain during long sessions.

App updates sometimes break features.

Not ideal for quick roadside checks.

More expensive ($129?$139 for good units).

? Which Should You Use? (Tailored Recommendation)
Given your background?hands?on diagnostics, vintage motorcycles, older
vehicles, and practical garage workflow:

Best Overall Setup for You
Use both: a cheap standalone + a high?quality phone adapter.

Why?
The standalone gives you instant, reliable fault checks when wrenching.

The phone adapter gives you deep data when you need to chase intermittent
or performance?related issues.

If choosing only one:
For simplicity: Motopower MP69033 or ANCEL AD310

For capability: OBDLink MX+

For OEM?enhanced diagnostics: BlueDriver







On Sun, Jun 28, 2026 at 8:28?AM Tim . <tims_datsun_stuff at outlook.com> wrote:

> Does any one here have/use a smart phone OBD2 scanner?
>
> Please chime in with thoughts and experiences.
>
> Thanks
> tim
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From mark at bradakis.com  Sun Jun 28 12:22:48 2026
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark Bradakis)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2026 12:22:48 -0600
Subject: [Shop-talk] OBD2 scanner
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On 6/28/26 8:42 AM, Tim . wrote:
> Does any one here have/use a smart phone OBD2 scanner?

I've been using an OBDLink LX for a while, a bright green little thing 
that plugs into the OBD port on the vehicle.  And it communicates with 
the OBDLink app on my android phone via bluetooth.  Works pretty well, 
reads/clears DTC codes, can display real time info like water temp, rpm, 
speed, battery voltage, etc.  Also has accelerometers, though I don't 
think I have ever checked those while driving my car.  Can't remember 
how much it cost or how long ago I bought it.  I am sure a web search on 
OBDLink LX will provide current pricing.  The company also offers an MX 
model, which has more features, and a price tag that reflects the extra 
features.

But about a week ago I had ordered an iCarSoft LR 4.0 scanner for just 
over $200 that has Jaguar/Land Rover specific software.  Pretty slick, I 
got it because of the Jaguar XK I bought last year.  It will read 6 
digit DTCs, whereas the OBDLink only reads the basic 4 digit codes.  I 
haven't used it much yet, probably overkill for most people.  So I am 
not yet sure if it is the greatest thing ever or a total waste of money.

I would stay away from FIXD and really cheap ones, too basic.  I do have 
a couple of handheld stand alone scanners I bought years ago, haven't 
used them since getting the bluetooth plug in unit.

mjb.


From jniolon at att.net  Sun Jun 28 16:39:43 2026
From: jniolon at att.net (john niolon)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2026 17:39:43 -0500
Subject: [Shop-talk] electrical help needed
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I've got an electrical outlet on the outside wall of my shop that is inset in vinyl siding.  It's 
the old style covered outdoor outlet with the vinyl
trimmed around.  I need to add another outlet on the same wall and have no thru 
wall access without major difficulty on inside wall.
 
Whats the chance I can use a box extender and push the existing outlet out from 
the vinyl and then run a conduit to the new location and mount the box
to the exterior wall over the vinyl...  Do they make the stuff to do this other 
than regular 1/2" conduit.. I've used the plastic self stick wire covers in different places
but screwed it to the wall...  give me some suggestions how to do this without looking crappy.  I'll bet someone here does this every day.  pic attached
thanks
john
 
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