From tims_datsun_stuff at outlook.com Sun May 3 12:59:44 2026 From: tims_datsun_stuff at outlook.com (Tim .) Date: Sun, 3 May 2026 18:59:44 +0000 Subject: [Shop-talk] testing testing Message-ID: I got an odd email the other day. It was a cancellation confirmation note from the list serve. I wanted to see if somehow someone managed to get me cancelled..... Tim -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ronnie.day at gmail.com Sun May 3 20:53:50 2026 From: ronnie.day at gmail.com (Ronnie Day) Date: Sun, 3 May 2026 21:53:50 -0500 Subject: [Shop-talk] [Roadsters] testing testing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Tim, it's showing up fine here. Came via the shop-talk and Datsun Roadster lists. RD On Sun, May 3, 2026 at 9:45?PM Tim . wrote: > I got an odd email the other day. It was a cancellation confirmation note > from the list serve. > > I wanted to see if somehow someone managed to get me cancelled..... > > Tim > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/datsun-roadsters > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ronnie.day at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mark at bradakis.com Mon May 4 02:11:09 2026 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark Bradakis) Date: Mon, 4 May 2026 02:11:09 -0600 Subject: [Shop-talk] testing testing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7475b099-96e8-440a-9a9d-fa180e9c986c@bradakis.com> On 5/3/26 12:59 PM, Tim . wrote: > I got an odd email the other day. It was a cancellation confirmation > note from the list serve. > > I wanted to see if somehow someone managed to get me cancelled..... > > Tim No, you have not been unsubscribed. It happens from time to time, not very frequently, that random addresses will get that message sent to them. To be honest, I am not sure if the problem is with mailman doing it, or if random outside people get access to the unsubscribe links in the footer of messages, and send malicious email just for fun. It seems more likely that it is an artifact of the mailman system as currently installed, kept running by being pieced together with bubble gum and bailing wire, or more currently, nylon tie wraps. Nobody uses bailing wire anymore, though I do have maybe 60 - 70 feet of it on a stick out in the garage. So don't worry, nothing has happened to your subscription, you are still on whatever lists you subscribed to. mjb. From mayfield+shoptalk at sackheads.org Mon May 4 06:46:07 2026 From: mayfield+shoptalk at sackheads.org (Jimmie Mayfield) Date: Mon, 4 May 2026 08:46:07 -0400 Subject: [Shop-talk] testing testing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Looks like you're still live. I get a few fake cancellation confirmations per day.? My non-existent iCloud account gets cancelled at least twice a week. J On 5/3/26 14:59, Tim . wrote: > I got an odd email the other day. It was a cancellation confirmation > note from the list serve. > > I wanted to see if somehow someone managed to get me cancelled..... > > Tim > > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk at autox.team.net > Donate:http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive:http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/mayfield+shoptalk at sackheads.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tims_datsun_stuff at outlook.com Mon May 4 07:08:01 2026 From: tims_datsun_stuff at outlook.com (Tim .) Date: Mon, 4 May 2026 13:08:01 +0000 Subject: [Shop-talk] [Roadsters] testing testing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks all ________________________________ From: Datsun-roadsters on behalf of Tim . Sent: Sunday, May 3, 2026 1:59 PM To: Shop Talk ; Datsun Roadster List Subject: [Roadsters] testing testing I got an odd email the other day. It was a cancellation confirmation note from the list serve. I wanted to see if somehow someone managed to get me cancelled..... Tim -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Mon May 4 07:17:18 2026 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Mon, 4 May 2026 06:17:18 -0700 Subject: [Shop-talk] testing testing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <953f5512-bc2d-4b33-8762-d6829937defd@comcast.net> I got one too. I figured it was just a server brain fart. On 5/3/2026 11:59 AM, Tim . wrote: > I got an odd email the other day. It was a cancellation confirmation > note from the list serve. > > I wanted to see if somehow someone managed to get me cancelled..... > > Tim > > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk at autox.team.net > Donate:http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive:http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/bspidell at comcast.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From maynerdfamily at msn.com Mon May 4 09:19:29 2026 From: maynerdfamily at msn.com (Brian and Wendy Warrick) Date: Mon, 4 May 2026 15:19:29 +0000 Subject: [Shop-talk] testing testing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Seems like it is still working. Brian ________________________________ From: Shop-talk on behalf of Tim . Sent: Sunday, May 3, 2026 12:59 PM To: Shop Talk ; Datsun Roadster List Subject: [Shop-talk] testing testing I got an odd email the other day. It was a cancellation confirmation note from the list serve. I wanted to see if somehow someone managed to get me cancelled..... Tim -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dmscheidt at gmail.com Mon May 4 09:55:54 2026 From: dmscheidt at gmail.com (David Scheidt) Date: Mon, 4 May 2026 10:55:54 -0500 Subject: [Shop-talk] testing testing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: message received. Shop content: I spent two hours fixing a cheap alarm clock yesterday, one that looks like an old fashioned one, with bells on top. It had been dropped or something, and a wire pulled off the battery terminal, and something was blocking the gear train. Would have taken a lot less time, but I was an idiot and took the motor apart upside down, and had to put it all back together. no parts required, beyond an inch of solder and a couple drops of flux. On Mon, May 4, 2026 at 2:38?AM Tim . wrote: > > I got an odd email the other day. It was a cancellation confirmation note from the list serve. > > I wanted to see if somehow someone managed to get me cancelled..... > > Tim > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/dmscheidt at gmail.com > -- David Scheidt dmscheidt at gmail.com From patintexas at icloud.com Tue May 5 06:24:47 2026 From: patintexas at icloud.com (Pat Horne) Date: Tue, 5 May 2026 07:24:47 -0500 Subject: [Shop-talk] testing testing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Still here. Pat Horne We support Habitat for Humanity On May 5, 2026, at 6:10?AM, Tim . wrote: ? I got an odd email the other day. It was a cancellation confirmation note from the list serve. I wanted to see if somehow someone managed to get me cancelled..... Tim _______________________________________________ Shop-talk at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/patintexas at icloud.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ronnie.day at gmail.com Tue May 5 20:01:13 2026 From: ronnie.day at gmail.com (Ronnie Day) Date: Tue, 5 May 2026 21:01:13 -0500 Subject: [Shop-talk] [Roadsters] testing testing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: An international audiovisual list serve I?ve be on since the mid ?90s started randomly bouncing my posts from this gmail address a little over a year ago so I set up a couple of alternative accounts. I haven?t had any problems with any of the team net lists that Mark hosts Weird, but frankly I?m surprised that all of this works as well as it does, and I been in or around IT since the mid ?80s. RD On Tue, May 5, 2026 at 5:25?PM Tim . wrote: > Thanks all > ------------------------------ > *From:* Datsun-roadsters on > behalf of Tim . > *Sent:* Sunday, May 3, 2026 1:59 PM > *To:* Shop Talk ; Datsun Roadster List < > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> > *Subject:* [Roadsters] testing testing > > I got an odd email the other day. It was a cancellation confirmation note > from the list serve. > > I wanted to see if somehow someone managed to get me cancelled..... > > Tim > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/datsun-roadsters > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ronnie.day at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Fri May 8 19:04:06 2026 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Fri, 8 May 2026 18:04:06 -0700 Subject: [Shop-talk] One for the woodworkers Message-ID: <0ba1a3f7-b98b-4958-93c1-cd671050b1bd@comcast.net> Wifey has a furniture restoration hobby. She did a pretty good job on an outdoor table but the varnish flaked-off after a few months. This table has a steel frame and a stained wood top; what is a good finish--urethane, acrylic, varnish, etc.--that will give a good luster and last more than a season in the elements? TIA, Bob From doug at dougbraun.com Fri May 8 20:21:24 2026 From: doug at dougbraun.com (Doug Braun) Date: Fri, 8 May 2026 22:21:24 -0400 Subject: [Shop-talk] One for the woodworkers In-Reply-To: <0ba1a3f7-b98b-4958-93c1-cd671050b1bd@comcast.net> References: <0ba1a3f7-b98b-4958-93c1-cd671050b1bd@comcast.net> Message-ID: Interlux Schooner varnish holds up very well on boats. But since the varnish is flaking off, I wonder if there was an adhesion problem. Doug On Fri, May 8, 2026 at 9:28?PM Bob Spidell wrote: > Wifey has a furniture restoration hobby. She did a pretty good job on an > outdoor table but the varnish flaked-off after a few months. This table > has a steel frame and a stained wood top; what is a good > finish--urethane, acrylic, varnish, etc.--that will give a good luster > and last more than a season in the elements? > > TIA, > Bob > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/doug at dougbraun.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pethier7 at gmail.com Mon May 11 01:06:09 2026 From: pethier7 at gmail.com (Philip Ethier) Date: Mon, 11 May 2026 02:06:09 -0500 Subject: [Shop-talk] AGM battery: OK to lay it on its side? Message-ID: I could swear that I used to run an AGM battery meant for a Honda Gold Wing, laid down flat in my Lotus Elise. That car has gone away. I bought a Birkin and there is a larger automotive AGM battery lying on its side. This battery won't fit in there standing up with the terminals on top. Is it OK to continue to use the mounting done by a previous owner? -- Phil Ethier, West Side, Saint Paul Minnesota, USA 2006 Gulf Stream Conquest Super C, 8.1, white 2011 Cayman 2.9 PDK, white 2021 Ford F-150 3500cc twin turbo, white 1991 Caterham 1700 Super Sprint, not white 2003(?) Birkin, Green. www.mnautox.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pethier7 at gmail.com Mon May 11 01:11:48 2026 From: pethier7 at gmail.com (Philip Ethier) Date: Mon, 11 May 2026 02:11:48 -0500 Subject: [Shop-talk] 35 Years! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sun, Apr 12, 2026 at 5:12?AM Mark Bradakis wrote: > > > Time marches on, and so does Team Net. I'll keep it going as long as I > can, health permitting. Who knows, maybe I'll be sending out a 50th > birthday notice! > _______________________________________________ > > >From your lips to God's ear. Thanks for all you do. I find it hard to believe that I have been around for those 35 years. I plan to be in SLC for the Lotus Owners Gathering. -- Phil Ethier, West Side, Saint Paul Minnesota, USA 2006 Gulf Stream Conquest Super C, 8.1, white 2011 Cayman 2.9 PDK, white 2021 Ford F-150 3500cc twin turbo, white 1991 Caterham 1700 Super Sprint, not white www.mnautox.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dave1massey at cs.com Mon May 11 04:59:00 2026 From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY) Date: Mon, 11 May 2026 10:59:00 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Shop-talk] AGM battery: OK to lay it on its side? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <445420788.517078.1778497140794@mail.yahoo.com> I was a principal in a small company that designed and built electric powered transportation assisting devices for heavy medical devices and patient transport and we used AGM batteries a lot.? In many applications they were oriented on their sides.? No issues associated with that orientation.?? Dave On Monday, May 11, 2026 at 02:49:50 AM CDT, Philip Ethier wrote: I could swear that?I used?to run an AGM battery meant for a Honda Gold Wing, laid down flat in my Lotus Elise. That car has gone away. I bought a Birkin and there is a larger automotive AGM battery lying on its side.? This battery won't fit in there standing up with the terminals on top.? Is it OK to continue?to use the mounting done by a previous owner? -- Phil Ethier, West Side, Saint Paul Minnesota, USA2006 Gulf Stream Conquest Super C, 8.1, white2011 Cayman 2.9 PDK, white2021 Ford F-150 3500cc twin turbo, white1991 Caterham 1700 Super Sprint, not white2003(?) Birkin, Green. www.mnautox.com _______________________________________________ Shop-talk at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/dave1massey at cs.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fitzgibbontm at gmail.com Mon May 11 06:12:47 2026 From: fitzgibbontm at gmail.com (Tom FitzGibbon) Date: Mon, 11 May 2026 08:12:47 -0400 Subject: [Shop-talk] One for the woodworkers In-Reply-To: <0ba1a3f7-b98b-4958-93c1-cd671050b1bd@comcast.net> References: <0ba1a3f7-b98b-4958-93c1-cd671050b1bd@comcast.net> Message-ID: Bob, Most marine finishes will hold up, but they do require some maintenance. Personally, I use this TotalBoat Lust Marine Spar Varnish on my sailboat, but any of the Total Boat varnishes have a good reputation, although I have not used the water-based one. Another popular finnish with boaters is Cetol by Sikkens. I've used it on the interior of my boat but never the exterior. If you live anywhere near an ocean or sizable lake try your local chandlery for other choices. Good luck. Tom On Fri, May 8, 2026 at 9:17?PM Bob Spidell wrote: > Wifey has a furniture restoration hobby. She did a pretty good job on an > outdoor table but the varnish flaked-off after a few months. This table > has a steel frame and a stained wood top; what is a good > finish--urethane, acrylic, varnish, etc.--that will give a good luster > and last more than a season in the elements? > > TIA, > Bob > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/fitzgibbontm at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dmscheidt at gmail.com Mon May 11 06:50:34 2026 From: dmscheidt at gmail.com (David Scheidt) Date: Mon, 11 May 2026 07:50:34 -0500 Subject: [Shop-talk] AGM battery: OK to lay it on its side? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <34E7DC8F-3998-4233-A30E-4734F23500AF@gmail.com> > On May 11, 2026, at 02:21, Philip Ethier wrote: > > ? > I could swear that I used to run an AGM battery meant for a Honda Gold Wing, laid down flat in my Lotus Elise. That car has gone away. > > I bought a Birkin and there is a larger automotive AGM battery lying on its side. This battery won't fit in there standing up with the terminals on top. Is it OK to continue to use the mounting done by a previous owner? > Yes. Agm batteries can be mounted in any orientation. Most say not upside down, but I am pretty sure that is to avoid dropping it and shorting the terminals. > From mmeany7 at gmail.com Mon May 11 08:09:46 2026 From: mmeany7 at gmail.com (Mark Meany) Date: Mon, 11 May 2026 10:09:46 -0400 Subject: [Shop-talk] one for the Woodworkers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > > I second the use of Sikkens Cetol. I use it on my log home (Southwest New > Hampshire) and it holds up well against the weather. I end up doing a > maintenance coat every 5 years. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dave1massey at cs.com Mon May 11 09:26:09 2026 From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY) Date: Mon, 11 May 2026 15:26:09 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Shop-talk] AGM battery: OK to lay it on its side? In-Reply-To: <34E7DC8F-3998-4233-A30E-4734F23500AF@gmail.com> References: <34E7DC8F-3998-4233-A30E-4734F23500AF@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2026118842.637681.1778513169923@mail.yahoo.com> Or, just making the connections would be really awkward. Dave On Monday, May 11, 2026 at 08:34:30 AM CDT, David Scheidt wrote: > On May 11, 2026, at 02:21, Philip Ethier wrote: > > ? > I could swear that I used to run an AGM battery meant for a Honda Gold Wing, laid down flat in my Lotus Elise. That car has gone away. > > I bought a Birkin and there is a larger automotive AGM battery lying on its side.? This battery won't fit in there standing up with the terminals on top.? Is it OK to continue to use the mounting done by a previous owner? > Yes.? Agm batteries can be mounted in any orientation.? Most say not upside down, but I am pretty sure that is to avoid dropping it and shorting the terminals. > _______________________________________________ Shop-talk at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/dave1massey at cs.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pethier7 at gmail.com Mon May 11 09:35:29 2026 From: pethier7 at gmail.com (Philip Ethier) Date: Mon, 11 May 2026 10:35:29 -0500 Subject: [Shop-talk] AGM battery: OK to lay it on its side? In-Reply-To: <2026118842.637681.1778513169923@mail.yahoo.com> References: <34E7DC8F-3998-4233-A30E-4734F23500AF@gmail.com> <2026118842.637681.1778513169923@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Mon, May 11, 2026 at 10:26?AM DAVID MASSEY wrote: > Or, just making the connections would be really awkward. > > Dave > It turns out that as the car came to me this battery orientation is the only way the current cables will reach. Thanks to all who helped. On Monday, May 11, 2026 at 08:34:30 AM CDT, David Scheidt < dmscheidt at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On May 11, 2026, at 02:21, Philip Ethier wrote: > > > > ? > > I could swear that I used to run an AGM battery meant for a Honda Gold > Wing, laid down flat in my Lotus Elise. That car has gone away. > > > > I bought a Birkin and there is a larger automotive AGM battery lying on > its side. This battery won't fit in there standing up with the terminals > on top. Is it OK to continue to use the mounting done by a previous owner? > > > > Yes. Agm batteries can be mounted in any orientation. Most say not > upside down, but I am pretty sure that is to avoid dropping it and shorting > the terminals. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/dave1massey at cs.com > > -- Phil Ethier, West Side, Saint Paul Minnesota, USA 2006 Gulf Stream Conquest Super C, 8.1, white 2011 Cayman 2.9 PDK, white 2021 Ford F-150 3500cc twin turbo, white 1991 Caterham 1700 Super Sprint, not white 2003(?) 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