[Shotimes] She starts when S
Michael S Wojton
Mike.Wojton@owens-ill.com
Thu, 5 Dec 2002 09:20:00 -0500
Oh yeah, that's right! Mark's my evil doppelganger twin. We have to
flip a coin in the morning to see who gets stuck with the green SHO
for the day. : )
Mike Wojton
'95 MTX
Toledo, Ohio
shomike@tri-statesho-svt.org
K&N sans silencer cone
SHO Shop Y-pipe
"Avoid the clap." - Jimmy Dugan
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Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 09:05:58 -0500
To: shotimes@autox.team.net
From: Ron.Nottingham[nottingham]@alltel.net
Sender: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] She starts when S
Well, you should know! You Toledo boys are one in the same, right? ;-)
Ron N. - Dalton, GA
90 SHO
(stayin' as far from Toledo as possible :-)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael S Wojton" <Mike.Wojton@owens-ill.com>
> Wow, are you jobless or something!? Where did you find THAT much
> time to write such a large essay? ; )
>
>
> Mike Wojton
> '95 MTX
> Toledo, Ohio
> shomike@tri-statesho-svt.org
>
> K&N sans silencer cone
> SHO Shop Y-pipe
>
> "Avoid the clap." - Jimmy Dugan
>
> ------------------( Forwarded letter 1 follows )---------------------
> Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 20:46:08 -0500
> To: BulDawg78@aol.com, shotimes@autox.team.net
> From: Mark.D.Mallory[mmallory78]@earthlink.net
> Sender: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
> Subject: RE: [Shotimes] She starts when She want's too----
>
> Hard to say... your best bet would be to check the codes first. Most
likely
> you've got a problem with one of three things, Crankshaft Position Sensor,
> Camshaft Position Sensor, or DIS. Here's what we know:
>
> Dead DIS = No start
> Dead Crank Sensor = No start
> Dead Cam Sensor = Possible No start
>
> Both the Cam and Crank sensor *should* throw a code... however doesn't
> happen all the time. The DIS should throw a code (I think). If the Cam
> sensor is dead, the car will still start, however keep this in mind. The
> cam sensor gives the computer timing information without which the
computer
> simply guesses which cylinder to fire first. Wrong guess = no start (or
> stumble and won't run) Correct guess = car will run (possibly very
poorly).
>
> Bad Crank sensors tend to give people trouble when the engine (and sensor)
> is hot. Some have indicated that a leaking water pump can short, or
> temporarily short, the sensor causing the engine to completely quit
running.
> With a dying crank sensor, people have also reported that letting the car
> sit for 10 minutes to 10 hours will allow the car to run. (Possibly from
> the sensor drying out if it shorted due to a coolant leak... possibly from
> the sensor merely cooling off)
>
> Bad Cam sensors tend to give people trouble any time, any place. The most
> common symptoms are that the sensor will give out while driving, in which
> case the engine will buck and sputter due to the loss of timing
information.
> Sometimes the computer or sensor can recover and other times not. If the
> either recovers the engine will run as if nothing had happened. If
neither
> recovers then the engine will die. Restarting is a matter of how many
times
> you try. Can take one or ten or more tries to get it restarted (as long
as
> the battery holds out!)
>
> The DIS... well without it you don't go. Afraid that's all I know about
it.
>
> The cheapest solution is to replace the Cam sensor since they can be had
for
> about $35 from most auto parts stores. Replacement can be done in a
> relatively short time. It's located on the passenger side near the fire
> wall. Bear in mind that without codes or other failures... this may not
fix
> anything. If it is a bad crank sensor the car will fail again and most
> likely leave you stranded. These are the problems that cause most SHO
> owners a ton of money.
>
> Keep us posted on the problem and we can advise as needed.
>
> Mark Mallory
> Toledo, Ohio
> '95 SHO MTX
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
> > [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of BulDawg78@aol.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 6:56 PM
> > To: shotimes@autox.team.net
> > Subject: [Shotimes] She starts when She want's too----
> >
> >
> > Ok... got in the SHO at 11:30 after work on monday night...
> > needed gas... drove 100 ft to the gas station, put 10 bucks in...
> > paid... turn the key.... NO START... cranks.. wont' start... so
> > till I got the Esorct.. which is for sale.. and got home after
> > AAA was called by their best customer.. it was 2.. anyway....
> > today.. mechanic looked at it.. and it started... 3 times at
> > three different times.... damnit...
> >
> > Let me know what you think could be wrong
> >
> > -Adam
> > 94' MTX
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