[Shotimes] OT Saab 93

Sat, 21 Dec 2002 19:18:11 -0500

I just reiterated what was said in the link that I provided. Could be they
were only talking about the sales organizations. Personally could care less
what they do with Saabs.

Ron Porter

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From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
[mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Paul L Fisher
Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2002 2:30 PM
To: Ron Porter
Cc: Shotimes@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] OT Saab 93

Yes, but you had said that GM is leaving Saab alone. I was merely refuting
that by saying that GM management is taking over at Saab and that they are
sharing common stuff.

Paul L Fisher
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Porter" <ronporter@prodigy.net>
To: "Paul L Fisher" <sho@paul-fisher.com>
Cc: <Shotimes@autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2002 1:15 PM
Subject: RE: [Shotimes] OT Saab 93

> Well, that's twisting the meaning a bit. The next-generation Grand Am will
> "also" using the Epsilon platform (which I believe was an Opel platform,
if
> not the Saab), it's not that the Saab is built on a Grand Am platform, as
> you imply.
>
> Besides, what's the difference? As this and other articles have stated,
this
> platform is far stiffer than the one it replaces.
>
> I must admit, I never did "get" the Saab. I knew a couple of Saab
groupies,
> but the car seemed to have the reputation based purely on the quirkiness,
> and not real performance. And yes, I know that Saabs did well in their
class
> (emphasis on "in their class") in rallying, but that was never on my radar
> screen.
>
> Ron Porter
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul L Fisher [mailto:sho@paul-fisher.com]
> Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2002 8:15 AM
> To: Ron Porter
> Cc: Shotimes@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] OT Saab 93
>
>
> GM brass take over Saab
>
>
http://www.autoweek.com/search/search_display.mv?port_code=autoweek&cat_code
> =carnews&content_code=07738308&Search_Type=STD&Search_ID=840688&record=10
>
> Saab 9-3 same platform as new Pontiac Grand Am
>
>
http://www.autoweek.com/search/search_display.mv?port_code=autoweek&cat_code
> =reviews&content_code=03582997&Search_Type=STD&Search_ID=840688&record=14
>
> Paul L Fisher
> '93 Ford Taurus SHO Crimson Clearcoat ATX 167K Build date 11/18/1992
> - K&N Panel filter, Tokico Struts, Eibach Springs, Dynomax cat-back,
Holley
> 190lph fuel pump, FPS rebuilt ATX, 26mm rear sway bar, Performance-Plus
> Stainless Steel Y-pipe, Delrin sub-frame bushings, Amsoil Series 2000
0W-30
> oil, Amsoil Synthetic ATF.
> '00 Ford Explorer XLT 5.0L V8 AWD Oxford White Clearcoat 34K Build date
> 11/19/1999
> - Amsoil Series 2000 0W-30 oil, K&N Fuel Injection Performance Kit
>
> SHO Club member http://www.shoclub.com/
> Check out my web site http://www.paul-fisher.com/
> Amsoil dealer http://www.paul-fisher.com/oil.htm
>
> Get $5 free from Paypal! https://www.paypal.com/refer/pal=P3XEFFBFUFKN6
>
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ron Porter" <ronporter@prodigy.net>
> > To: "James White" <greensho@crown.net>
> > Cc: <Shotimes@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 8:25 PM
> > Subject: RE: [Shotimes] OT Saab 93
> >
> >
> > > Yes, GM owns 100% of Saab as of 2000, but they leave them alone to do
> > their
> > > own thing. Here's a bit of a blurb on it from the GM site:
> > >
> > > http://www.gm.com/company/corp_info/global_locations/sweden.htm
> > >
> > > FWIW, there's a new 9-3 sitting in the Milwaukee airport. Car looks
> nice,
> > > but for some reason, it looks like a Contour SVT to me from a rear 3/4
> > view.
> > >
> > > Ron Porter
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
> > > [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of James White
> > > Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 5:04 PM
> > > To: Jeffrey Hall; Zoltan
> > > Cc: Shotimes@autox.team.net
> > > Subject: Re: [Shotimes] OT Saab 93
> > >
> > >
> > > I thought that the "General" owned half of SAAB.
> > >
> > > Maybe they own it all now?
> > >
> > > I remember that there were some lease deals tied to GMAC a while back
> that
> > > were almost too good to pass up.
> > >
> > > regards, Jim White - greensho@crown.net
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Jeffrey Hall" <silversleepersho@yahoo.com>
> > > To: "Zoltan" <nd4spdsho@cox.net>
> > > Cc: <Shotimes@autox.team.net>
> > > Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 3:03 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Shotimes] OT Saab 93
> > >
> > >
> > > > seen commercials for them for the past 2 weeks,  been drooling alot
> too
> > =O
> > > > is it me,  or does it look slightly SHOish in the front facia?  its
a
> > > really sharp looking car.  Whats happened to saab btw?   theve turned
> from
> > a
> > > timid family car company, to a sports car factory...   i think they
grew
> > up
> > > a bit, addressing and embracing the enthusiast market now.
> > > >
> > > > jeff
> > > >  Zoltan <nd4spdsho@cox.net> wrote:Anybody see this beast yet? I was
> > > checking them out last night on Saab's
> > > > website. They look pretty impressive.
> > > >
> > > > Z
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