[Shotimes] (OT) Forbe's article about Ford

[Ron Nottingham]

While true, the Euro Accord will be an "entry" level car, but it's entry
level is for Acura.  It won't be a $15k entry level, but close to $20k,
which is the price of a mid-level 4-cylinder Accord (the UK Accord 2.0i VTEC
SE bases at 15k quid, just a guestimate should place it around $20k US for
US sale).  Not too entry level :-)  I would also guestimate it would shadow
the pricing for an RSX (base $19,975 up to $23,270, base Type-S).  The
Euro-spec Accord dimensions are: 183.7"L, 69.3"W, 57.1"H,  with a 105.1"
wheelbase (slots nicely between the US Civic and Accord sedans).  While it
is smaller than our "mid-size", it is larger than an "entry" level sedan,
and has a nice niche if people feel the Civic is too small for them, and the
current Accord is too large (my wife thinks this way, but don't ask why she
likes her smaller 325, you know how women can be).

Which brings me right back to the notion that the Gen1/2 Taurus has the
"perfect" overall dimensions, just needs a little longer wheelbase :-)

Ron N. - Dalton, GA
90 SHO

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Kelley" <mrkelley64@earthlink.net>
To: "Ron Childs" <rchildssho@hotmail.com>
Cc: <SHOtimes@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 10:52 AM
Subject: RE: [Shotimes] (OT) Forbe's article about Ford


> True, but it's coming in as an entry level sedan, not a mid-range sedan
like
> the Taurus, Accord, or Camry.  If Honda thought it was sell as a
mid-range,
> they wouldn't have spent the money designing a larger Accord just for the
> American market.
>
> Mark
>
> On Wed, 06 Nov 2002 07:27:24 -0800 Ron Childs <rchildssho@hotmail.com>
wrote:
>
> > The smaller Euro Accord is coming to the USA to
> > replace the departed 4-door
> > Integra. We will get a chance to see how well
> > liked it is here.
> >
> > -Ron
> >
> >
> > >From: "Mark Kelley"
> > >To: "Don McKinnon \(AST\)"
> > >CC: "SHOtimes \(Team.net\)"
> > >Subject: RE: [Shotimes] (OT) Forbe's article
> > about Ford
> > >Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:13:01 -0600
> > >
> > >Something that occurred to me on my drive home
> > from work is that the Euro
> > >and Japanese Accords are smaller than the
> > American Accord (not sure about
> > >the Camry) because that aren't the right size
> > for American tastes.  Nick
> > >Scheele needs to keep that in mind before he
> > downsizes the Taurus (or
> > >whatever replaces it) due to his belief that
> > Americans want smaller cars.
> > >
> > >Mark
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
> > > > [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]On
> > Behalf Of Don McKinnon (AST)
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 4:28 PM
> > > > To: mrkelley64@earthlink.net;
> > shotimes@autox.team.net
> > > > Subject: RE: [Shotimes] (OT) Forbe's
> > article about Ford
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I really like this article!
> > > >
> > http://www.forbes.com/columnists/2002/10/29/cz_jf_1029flint.html
> > > >
> > > > "The way to fix the problem is to build a
> > better Taurus. Keep it
> > > > longer, but
> > > > get more powerful motors. Your engines are
> > no match for the
> > > > competition, and
> > > > you need a punchier four-cylinder for
> > Taurus, too. "
> > > >
> > > > and...
> > > > "Meanwhile, rear-wheel drive is coming back
> > into vogue, and Ford,
> > > > which has
> > > > the only rear-wheel-drive big U.S. sedans
> > in production (the Ford Crown
> > > > Victoria and Mercury Grand Marquis), could
> > take advantage of this
> > > > fact. But
> > > > instead of turning these into competitive
> > products, the automaker is
> > >happy
> > > > to let them age and sell the Fords to taxi
> > drivers and cops, and the
> > >Mercs
> > > > to geezers like myself. "
> > > >
> > > > Don McKinnon
> > > > 95 MTX
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
> > > > [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]On
> > Behalf Of Mark Kelley
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 2:04 PM
> > > > To: shotimes@autox.team.net
> > > > Subject: [Shotimes] (OT) Forbe's article
> > about Ford
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > We've all heard the bad news about Ford.
> > This Forbe's article points
> > >out
> > > > some of the strengths of Ford:
> > > >
> > > >
> > http://www.forbes.com/home/2002/11/04/cz_jf_1104flint.html
> > > >
> > > > I find it interesting that some of the
> > observations made in the
> > > > article are
> > > > the same as some observations posted on
> > this list.
> > > >
> > > > Mark
> > > >
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