[Shotimes] Re: Mobil1 ATF for steering?

ianf@eden.rutgers.edu ianf@eden.rutgers.edu
Wed, 13 Nov 2002 11:55:45 -0500 (EST)


Thanks..I called the stealer up the road from work. I'll go there after 
work and pick a few up. Apparently there are two different sizes for 
Ford vehicles. I'll get two of each and just hang onto the remaining 
three. (ebay? 40 cents each?) lol

Ian


> Get a new Teflon ring.  Do NOT use teflon tape.  You don't want to 
have to
> do this again.  In fact, get a spare or two.
> 
> Dropping the subframe does make it pretty easy!
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <ianf@eden.rutgers.edu>
> To: "Steve Weinrich" <stevwein@swbell.net>; <TechSHO@topica.com>;
> "SHOTimes-Mailing List" <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 9:44 AM
> Subject: [Shotimes] Re: Mobil1 ATF for steering?
> 
> 
> > thanks..I removed the rack on Sunday night after attempting to 
remove
> > my inner tie rods and stripping the threads on the rack. We decided
> > that dropping the subframe completely would be the easiest way to
> > reinstall the new rack.
> >
> > My old rack had a washer and some sort of clear teflon ring on one 
of
> > the lines. I can probably reuse these or get teflon tape since I 
forgot
> > to get the seals. If I have time, I'll go back to the dealer and 
try to
> > get them..
> >
> > Thanks
> > Ian
> >
> >
> > > Mobil 1 ATF is fine. You can use cheap type F to flush the 
system, if
> > > desired.
> > >
> > > Capacity is listed in your owner's manual if you still have it. 
It's
> > not
> > > very much.  I bought 3 qts and had plenty left over after flushing
> > some
> > > through.  I think 0.8 qts sounds familiar.
> > >
> > > DO perform the purge per the Helms.  Disconnect the DIS to keep 
the
> > engine
> > > from firing, then crank it to pump out the old fluid.  When you
> > refill the
> > > system, doo the same, turning the steering wheel from stop to 
stop to
> > purge
> > > the air from the system.  If, after performing this purge 
procedure,
> > you
> > > still have symptoms of air (whining from the pump, in particular) 
in
> > the
> > > system, you may have to perform the vacuum assisted purge.
> > >
> > > Tips:
> > >
> > > 1.)  Make sure you have several of the Teflon seals before you 
start.
> > > They're about 75 cents each at the dealer.  Also make sure that 
you
> > have a
> > > nice large punch to use for stretchng the seal.
> > >
> > > 2.)  Make sure the check valve (if reinstalled) is fully seated 
into
> > the
> > > pressure inlet of the rack.  I found out the hard way what 
happens if
> > you
> > > don't and you install the pressure fitting and tighten it down.  
It
> > will pop
> > > the quick-connect fitting apart and cause your PS fluid to puke 
onto
> > the
> > > floor when the system pressurizes.  I am currently running with 
the
> > check
> > > valve removed with no apparent ill effects.  YMMV.
> > >
> > > 3.)  You can connect and disconnect those fittings from the top 
if you
> > > remove the air inlet hose and a few other odds and ends.  I found 
top
> > access
> > > to be easier than going in from the wheel well. A stubby 18 mm 
wrench
> > is
> > > easier to use in there than is a long wrench (once the flare nut 
is
> > > loosened).
> > >
> > > 4.)  Get some eye protection glasses.  PS fluid dripping into your
> > face is a
> > > problem.
> > >
> > > 5.)  Thoroughly wash the underside of the rack and through the
> > wheelwells.
> > > Anything you wash off won't drop onto your face while you're under
> > there.
> > >
> > > 6.)  Be patient when removing the rack through the driver's side
> > wheel well.
> > > I had to gently force some of the brake lines to the side in 
order to
> > clear
> > > them with the rack's input gear housing.  Take your time and be
> > gentle,
> > > otherwise you can break these lines.
> > >
> > > 7.)  If you have a VAPS equipped rack, you might need to remove 
the
> > VAPS
> > > motor in order to get the rack out.  Not positive about that one.
> > >
> > > 8.)  Might as well put new outer TREs on there while you're at it.
> > >
> > > 9.)  If you drop the rear of the subframe, things might get 
easier.  I
> > > haven't tried that, but it would make sense.
> > >
> > > Good luck,
> > >
> > > Steve
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <ianf@eden.rutgers.edu>
> > > To: "SHOTimes-Mailing List" <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> > > Cc: <TechSHO@topica.com>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 9:06 AM
> > > Subject: Mobil1 ATF for steering?
> > >
> > >
> > > Would Mobil 1 ATF be a good, safe and compatiable fluid for use 
in the
> > > SHO's steering system? I'm putting a new rack in tonight. Wahoo!
> > >
> > > How many quarts should it take? The best method of draining and
> > > flushing would be to disconnect the cooler return line and run the
> > > motor, correct?
> > >
> > > Does anyone actually bleed the rack per the Helms? Some have said 
that
> > > it will bleed itself over time.
> > >
> > > Hints, tips and suggestions welcome.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Ian
> > > 93 mtx -less and less problems everday. :)
> > > 91 Nissan 300ZX TT 5 speed - last day with it :(
> > >
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