[Shotimes] The Seat I Want

[Ian Fisher]

If you are wearing a traditional seatbelt, your body has some freedom of
movement. It will slide around on the side somewhat during impact. Even
after initial impact, if you are sitting in your seat with a harness,
you won't be able to maneuver around as well or unhook yourself. With a
traditional belt, you can unbuckle yourself a little easier and maneuver
around a little more easily.

Ian


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From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
[mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Timothy Tyner
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 2:06 PM
To: shotimes@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: [Shotimes] The Seat I Want


And why will your head not get crumpled if you do not have a harness on?
There is no way human strength can keep your head from doing whatever
the forces acting upon a car in a wreck are going to make it do.  If you
have no harness and a roof impact strong enough to snap your neck if you
had a harness occurs, it is at the least going to crack your skull.
While I am sure there is a certain small percentage of accident
scenarios that would injure the driver greater if he was wearing a
harness vs not, there are the same percentage of scenarios that will
injure a driver greater if he were wearing a seatbelt vs not.  That is
not going to keep me from wearing my seatbelt though.

Toolman

-------Original Message-------

From: Ian Fisher
Date: Friday, November 22, 2002 11:37:48 AM
To: 'Dave Kegel'; shotimes@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: [Shotimes] The Seat I Want

This thread is a good time to get me started on my newest rant: Safety
Harnesses. Racing Seats tend to be safer than OE seats, but I would not
combine a racing seat with a harness unless I had a roll cage. In the
event of a roll over, a roof will tend to collapse. If you have a roll
cage, then you are probably good to go. If you don't, But you do have a
harness, your neckis going to snap like a twig. The roof will crumple
around your head which can't go anywhere since your body is strapped to
the harness. Roll cages also tend to negate the effect of a crumple
zone. Instead of the car absorbing impact energy, your body is now
taking a lot of that force which can be seriously dehabilitating if not
deadly. If I am going to take a roll down a large rocky hill, I want a
roll cage. If I am going to slam into the back of a semi, I want my
crumple zones. Either way, I don't think I'd want a harness without a
roll cage.

I hope this starts an interesting debate; list has been kinda lame
lately. :)

Ian


-----Original Message-----
From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
[mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave Kegel
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 12:02 PM
To: shotimes@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] The Seat I Want


I just take my coat off when I drive. Nice, inexpensive solution.

How's that for being creative? :)

Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: "van Oss" <vanOss@centurytel.net>
To: <shotimes@autox.team.net>
Sent: November 22, 2002 10:47 AM
Subject: [Shotimes] The Seat I Want


> An observation while switching from the summer 92 SHO to the winter 91
SHO...
>
> The summer track-prepared car has a Kirkey road-racing seat bolted to
tracks taken from a dead SLO. Very comfortable because it's
> fit to me. Best part is the headroom (good for helmets) caused by
dropping the seating surface about 4-5 inches.
>
> When I get into the winter 91 with stock seat, I feel like I'm riding
around in mid-air. Geez. My head is touching the headliner
> (both cars have lower ceiling because of moonroof). The driver seating
height is the one thing I really would like to change about
> this car.
>
> Transferring the Kirkey seat into the 91 is not practical. With a 
> bulky
winter coat on (George and Alan, use your imagination),
> it's awkward to get in and out, and quite a squeeze while seated.
>
> What I'd really like in the winter SHO is something like the Kirkey 
> seat,
except with all or most of the side bolsters cut off.
> Anybody got any ideas? I mean, other than spending $450 on another 
> Kirkey
and cutting it? Let's be creative.
>
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