[Shotimes] OT - Ford BB

Ron Porter ronporter@prodigy.net
Thu, 28 Nov 2002 03:01:33 -0500


Getting hazy on the exact memories, but the 427 showed up after the 406 back
in '62-'63. The 428 was much later. It is something like the 427 crank in
the 406 bore, or something like that. Made as a torque motor, plus it has
better emissions and mileage, IIRC. Much like Chevy dropping the 327 crank
in the 283 bore to get the 305....or was it 307......oh well, ONE of those,
anyway.

There was a 410 that was an old Lincoln motor WAY back in the late 50 -
early '60s (??). Dunno what that was based on.

Yeah, there was a 400. Don't recall if it was a big 351 Windsor, or the
smaller brother of the 429. IIRC, I believe it was a big 351W as you
mentioned. Of course, there was also the good 351 Cleveland that didn't hang
around too long.

Of course, there was the old Y-block series of the 272-292-312 that didn't
morph into anything else, I don't think.

Frankly, it's no wonder that Ford played catch-up to Chevy for years, they
were too busy coming up with motors that were orphaned after a few years! It
took the 221-260-289-302-351 thinwall, small-block-Chevy-like motor to
finally start kicking butt in the Mustang GTs and LXs.

Ron Porter (too much useless info crammed into brain cells somewhere!)

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[mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of George Fourchy
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 2:43 AM
To: shotimes@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: [Shotimes] OT - Ford BB


On Thu, 28 Nov 2002 02:21:47 -0500, Ron Porter wrote:

>The 428 was another variation on the block that (I believe) started with
the
>352 (although there may have been a 332 in there), then went through the
>390, 406, 427. The 428 was some combo of crank and bore from one of the
>other displacements.

Those are what are called the "FE" family of big-blocks, standing for
"Ford-Edsel".
I don't think...it's pretty hazy back there.....that the 427 was included in
that
group.  Super Ford/5.0 Magazine went through all the families a few years
ago.
There is an engine smaller than 429 in the 429/460 family, but I can't
remember what
it is to save my life.  400...410?  There was also a 351M engine in the 70s
that was
in Torinos...there was a 400 CID engine in that line, too.  The M stood for
Montreal, and that family was basically a bandaid while Ford developed new
engines
for smog legality..they were heavy and pretty much un-modifiable.

The 332 and 352 were truck engines originally.  The 352 was last sold (I
believe,
also) in cars in the middle to late '60s.  It came in Galaxies with only a
Cruis-o-Matic auto, and was what I would have been forced to order in my '65
G500XL,
that never came, until I got 20 mpg in my dad's '61 T-bird.  Then I was able
to
order a 390 and the 4-speed.

It never came, and Mustangs became the order of the day.

George
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