[Shotimes] OT - Ford BB

Ron Porter ronporter@prodigy.net
Fri, 29 Nov 2002 01:51:36 -0500


That was like the 348-409 Chevy in that regard, they were also "flat heads"
with the CC in the pistons.

Wonder what was up with that? Both Chevy and Ford went to that design in the
lat 50s for a relatively short period of time. Must have been a fad in the
engineering ranks for awhile. Probably made the heads cheaper to produce,
but then bumped up the cost of the pistons. Somehow it just doesn't seem to
be good for an efficient CC design.

Ron Porter

-----Original Message-----
From: Kerby Haltom [mailto:kerbyh@netzero.net]
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 11:08 PM
To: Ron Porter; shotimes@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: Re: [Shotimes] OT - Ford BB


The 430 and 462 were part of the MEL(Mercury-Edsel-Lincoln) family of
engines.  The 430 was also used in some of the "Squarebird" T-birds.  My
dad had a '60 T-bird when my folks got married, it had a 430 in it.  That
family of engines was a bit strange in that the combustion chamber was in
the piston.  The heads were flat on the bottom.  The 462 was used in
Lincolns until the 460 hit in '68.

Kerby

At 07:37 PM 11/28/02 -0500, Ron Porter wrote:
>In addition to all of the other Ford engines we've tossed out here, weren't
>there also some unique Lincoln & Continental engines early on in the '50s &
>'60s? I had mentioned a 410 that I thought I remembered, but wasn't there
>also a 430 (related to the 410??). What engine family was that, or was it
>another unique one?
>
>Ron Porter (if it wasn't for useless information, no one would need the
>Internet.....except for porn!!)
>
>-----Original Message-----
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>
>
>The 427 and 428s were both in the FE block series of engines.  FE stood for
>Ford Edsel, BTW.  As were the venerable 390, 352, 406, 360, and a few
>others.
>All were done with various crankshaft and bore combinations.  Although the
>427 and 428 were very close in displacement, one had a longer stroke(428
>IIRC).  The 428CJ had much revised heads from the original 428.
>
>The 429 actually started out life as a 460 that was used to move those big
>hulking Lincolns around, and was designed with low emmissions in mind.  The
>429 was introduced as a Ford-Mercury engine, and then gave way to the 460
>used everywhere, for the longest time in Ford Trucks.
>
>Kerby 'I read way too much about cars' Haltom
>
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