[Shotimes] Another loss for Ford.

Ron Porter ronporter@prodigy.net
Wed, 16 Oct 2002 11:33:32 -0400


Getting Bondurant's business is a great marketing coup. Plus, they may even
be building decontented Z06s for Bondurant to get the price down, since they
modify their cars a bit anyway.

Ford really isn't doing too badly on the performance front, they just aren't
producing the kind of car that we want (MTX sport sedan). The current list
isn't bad:

Mustang GT
Cobra
Lightning
SVT Focus
Marauder
LS

Then the GT40 will be showing up one of these days.

You say that "Ford has lost the performance edge it once had over the other
domestic makes"? Other than the Viper and Corvette, there isn't a lot out
there. Yes, new models are being promised (new GTO, V8 CTS, hipo Neon), but
other than the s/c Pontiacs, the cupboard is pretty bare.

Ron Porter


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Maybe so, but I don't see GM giving too much discount on the Z06.  Around
here, Z06's don't stay on the lot for only a couple days.

Just goes to show that Ford has lost the performance edge it once had over
the other domestic makes.  Aside from the Cobra, Jags, and A-M, I view Ford
as maker of stodgy cars now, something akin to Toyota, but without the high
quality :-)  Ford used to have a multitude of go fast cars outside of
Mustangs, including the Turbo/SC T-Birds, XR4Ti's, SHO's, Escort GT's (with
the Mazda engine), just to name a few.  Now, what does Ford have?  T-Birds
with more lux than sport, Focus ZX3's that are nowhere near as quick as
competitors (well, even the Civic Si has fallen in performance), and what do
they have in a roomy, go fast, 4-door?  The MazdaSpeed Protege is nice, even
though Ford owns controlling stake in Mazda, it still doesn't have the Blue
Oval.

I think my SHO will be the last Ford in my stable, unless I get a Mustang.
I may do just as Bonderant has done... sigh...

Ron N. - Dalton, GA
90 SHO

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Porter" <ronporter@prodigy.net>


> He may have put it out for bid, and GM offered the better deal.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
>
> Ford must have really p!ssed off Bonderant, as he has always been an avid
> Ford supporter.  Wonder why he didn't get the new Cobras?  Almost half
price
> of the Z06, and power to match.  Well, it is couple tenths slower than the
> Z06...
>
> I can see the CTS deal, as they are rear drive, and seat four, Ford
> currently has nothing to compare with it.  I don't think the LS comes
close
> to the CTS.
>
> As for the SHO's, I think he already got rid of those.
>
> Ron N. - Dalton, GA
> 90 SHO
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Frank Costa" <fcosta@comcast.net>
>
>
> > Does the bondurant school have any shos, currently?
> >
> > Frank
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Dave Kegel" <d.kegel@attbi.com>
> >
> > > Just read in the latest Autoweek that Bondurant has signed a four year
> > > deal with GM to be the official supplier of cars for the school.  26
> > > CTSs, 16 Vettes, and four Z06s.
> > >
> > > Bummer.
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