[Shotimes] Dead 93 MTX
Steve Tatro
stevetatro@att.net
Thu, 17 Oct 2002 09:08:24 -0400
2. Anybody mention radiator.com? Good prices, next-day service,
lifetime guarantee, free shipping.
3. There are two separate gasket sets from Fel-Pro. The Fel-Pro
MS94831 set includes the two metal intake-to-head gaskets and all of the
compressed fiber gaskets to allow disassembly and reassembly of the
entire intake manifold. You can get the VS50378R for the six plug well
seals and valve cover gaskets. On AutoZone.com you may need to look up
a '91, as some items don't reference properly when searching for a newer
SHO.
4. Check for good OEM prices from www.fordpartsnetwork.com as well.
6. To properly clean the intake, you should tear it all down, clean by
hand using Berryman's B-12 and a hose. There's a good chance some
gaskets will be old and need to be replaced (especially if they're
original) so you might as well replace them. FYI, I used 10 cans of
Berryman's when I cleaned my intake, which included complete
disassembly.
Also, although a LOT of people use synthetic oils, there has been some
(albeit inconslusive) evidence that synthetic oils can cause damage to
the cam lobes, as they'll wear instead of the shims. I do not have any
data, proof or pictures to back this up, but it has been observed by
others. I am simply regurgitating the information I've read. There are
plenty of people who've done religious oil changes every 3-5k miles with
QUALITY dino oil (like me) whose engines are well over 250k miles (not
me yet). I know the difference between dino oil and synthetics, and I
understand why people like synthetics. I'm just relaying what I've been
told and what's been said by some (self-proclaimed) SHO experts.
Good luck,
Steve Tatro
Red/Black '93 with 162k miles
Cincinnati, Ohio
www.picturetrail.com/stevetatro
*** P.S. Can you get me a good deal on some new furniture and ship it
to Ohio? ***
-----Original Message-----
From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
[mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Steve Weinrich
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 8:01 AM
To: shotimes@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Dead 93 MTX
1.)
http://www.shoforum.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=17;t=0030
23#0
00004 includes pictures.
3.) No, get the valve cover set and the intake gasket (if needed)
separately. Fel-Pro from AutoZone is a good, econonmical soultion.
There is a Fel-Pro set that includes the intake gaskets as part of a
complete upper set, but that's overkill. Intake gaskets can be re-used
as long as the sealing surface is not damaged.
4.) Either SHONut or SPMotorsports. The tools are around 35-40 bucks
directly from the manufacturer.
5.) Combination of RockAuto and Autozone. Scott's post here:
http://www.shoforum.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=17;t=0014
70#0
00004
7). Replace the cam seals if they're leaking. Replace the crank seal
when replacing the water pump, timing belt, and crank sensor. At that
time, it's only a few more minutes to pop the old seal out and a new one
in after pulling the crank timing gear. About 8 bucks from rockauto.
The cam seals are around 11-12 bucks for the set of three from rockauto.
The rear one behind the cam sensor is a real PITA it replace, the other
two are relatively easy and can be easily replaced when replacing your
timing belt and the CPS.
Steve
89
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kerry Kinion" <kerry@kinionfurniture.com>
To: <shotimes@autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 2:51 AM
Subject: [Shotimes] Dead 93 MTX
> Hi All,
>
> I posted a while back when my 93 MTX w/110k died on me and I had to
> get towed. I am now in the process of tearing the thing apart to do
> the 60k service plus a bunch of other stuff. I'll try to keep this
> short but I could really use some suggestions from you SHO pro's out
> there!
>
> 1. In the process of tearing down I found that the cause of the
> catastrophic failure was my timing belt broke. I know some of you
> have probably been over the answer to this a thousand times
> but....When I go to put a new timing belt on, how do I know for sure
> that Cams and Crank are on the right revolution? Helms says make sure
> Cyl 1 is TDC...How do I check this and what about the other cams/crank
> position. If my timing belt wouldn't have broke I wouldn't be asking
> this stupid question. I just want to make sure I get it right when I
> go to put it back together.
>
>
> 2. I am replacing the radiator because it was leaking. Is the
> radiator for the SHO the same one that is in the regular 3.0L Taurus?
> That's all I can seem to come up with, not one that is SHO specific.
> Except the $249 Sho Shop one - I think I can get one for less.
>
> 3. From browsing some earlier posts it seems like autozone.com is the
> place to go for gaskets. Is there a kit that includes intake, plug
> well seals AND valve cover gaskets?
>
> 4. 60k tools/shims. Where's the best place to rent these from?
>
> 5. Any suggestions on the best place to buy the following parts from
> would be greatly appreciated too.
>
> Water Pump
> Timing/ACC belts
> CPS (Crank Sensor)
> Crank Seal
> Thermostat/Sending Unit (BTW, what is the jiggle valve?) I can't see
> anything non-symmetrical on my old one except for maybe one small
> dimple missing from an inner ring on the thing. Plugs/Wires
>
> 6. Cleaning. I am kind of an obsessive compulsive type - and have
> been trying to clean all the parts I take off so they're nice and
> shiny when I go to put it back together. Intake manifold was/is still
dirty
> in the snakes. What's the best product to get all that shit out of
the
> runners? Camshafts and surrounding area? I've used a little brake
> cleaner and realize that some of this is just going to drain down into
> the oil pan. Oil is all out and I am planning on doing an oil system
> flush when I am all done. Synthetic Oil - is this the way to go?
> 7. My Uncle is the service manager at our local Chevy dealer, he got
> me some prices from our Ford dealer - he gets a pretty good discount.
> Some are reasonable, some are still ridiculous Ford prices - in the
> process the Ford dealer told him I need to replace my cam seals too,
> Is this true? I haven't looked these up in the Helms yet but just
> wanted your guy's opinions.
>
> OK, so much for keeping it short! Sorry.
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Kerry Kinion
> 93 Green MTX, Bone Stock.
> McMinnville, OR
> kkinion@kinionfurniture.com
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