[Shotimes] RE: Gen I vs. Gen II:::::was:Wizard of Codes::Fwd: flashing air bag light

Mon, 21 Oct 2002 13:24:14 -0400

Combined? Oh, yeah, right, right. I was only thinking about highway.

David P

95MTX

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark D. Mallory" <mmallory78@earthlink.net>
To: "David P" <jpotter8@bellsouth.net>; "Erik Balser" <masho95@attbi.com>;
<shotimes@autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 08:26
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] RE: Gen I vs. Gen II:::::was:Wizard of Codes::Fwd:
flashing air bag light

> Not for combined... since factory highway for the '95 is 26 mpg and city
is
> something like 19 mpg.  Fact is that not all SHO's are capable of 29+ mpg
in
> a stock configuration.  I am not going to argue this point any further.
The
> facts are what they are.
>
> Mark Mallory
> Toledo, Ohio
> '95 SHO MTX
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David P" <jpotter8@bellsouth.net>
> To: "Erik Balser" <masho95@attbi.com>; <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 8:21 AM
> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] RE: Gen I vs. Gen II:::::was:Wizard of Codes::Fwd:
> flashing air bag light
>
>
> > I get 32. 24 is low. Even my Sable did better than that.
> >
> > I get 10 in the city ;)
> >
> > David P
> >
> > 95MTX
> >
> >
> >
> > ~
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Erik Balser" <masho95@attbi.com>
> > To: "David P" <jpotter8@bellsouth.net>; <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 07:41
> > Subject: Re: [Shotimes] RE: Gen I vs. Gen II:::::was:Wizard of
Codes::Fwd:
> > flashing air bag light
> >
> >
> > > Whoa wait a minute...you get 30+ mpg??? Maybe my O2's ARE old...I'm
> > getting
> > > about 24 mpg combined city and highway.
> > >
> > > '95 MTX
> > > masho95
> > > http://home.attbi.com/~masho95
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "David P" <jpotter8@bellsouth.net>
> > > To: "Ron Porter" <ronporter@prodigy.net>; "_SHOTIMES II"
> > > <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> > > Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 7:36 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [Shotimes] RE: Gen I vs. Gen II:::::was:Wizard of
> Codes::Fwd:
> > > flashing air bag light
> > >
> > >
> > > > Agreed, but the SHO is still a Taurus, and the Taurus has history
that
> > > adds
> > > > to the package. Also, it's not the fact that the car is a hybrid.
but
> > the
> > > > technology presented as a result of the mating that is unique.
Exactly
> > how
> > > > many N/A, small displacement, 220hp, 30+ mpg, seating for 5,
sportish
> > cars
> > > > were on the road in 89?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > David P
> > > >
> > > > 95MTX
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ~
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Ron Porter" <ronporter@prodigy.net>
> > > > To: "_SHOTIMES II" <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2002 11:44
> > > > Subject: RE: [Shotimes] RE: Gen I vs. Gen II:::::was:Wizard of
> > Codes::Fwd:
> > > > flashing air bag light
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > It's a matter of personal opinion, I guess. The SHO was not the
> first
> > > > hybrid
> > > > > car to be produced by an America mfr. Yes, it was a good one, but
> not
> > > all
> > > > > that unique of a concept.
> > > > >
> > > > > What does a SHO have to do with "saving Ford". Yes, the Taurus
did,
> > but
> > > > Ford
> > > > > would have gone belly-up if the Taurus only came in a SHO model.
> > > > >
> > > > > Ron Porter
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: David P [mailto:jpotter8@bellsouth.net]
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2002 3:50 AM
> > > > > To: Ron Porter; alfitz@alfitz.com; _SHOTIMES II
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Shotimes] RE: Gen I vs. Gen II:::::was:Wizard of
> > > > > Codes::Fwd: flashing air bag light
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > A crossbred engine is all the SHO has going for it? Did any Merkur
> > > > > practically save Ford? Did they come with motors that were a
> departure
> > > > from
> > > > > Ford design? Did they offer what cars twice as expensive couldn't
> > muster
> > > ?
> > > > I
> > > > > don't see a small Euro-style body mated with a standard 2.3L Turbo
> as
> > > > being
> > > > > as unique and interesting as the SHO.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > David P
> > > > >
> > > > > 95MTX
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ~
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Ron Porter" <ronporter@prodigy.net>
> > > > > To: <alfitz@alfitz.com>; "_SHOTIMES II" <shotimes@autox.team.net>;
> > > "David
> > > > P"
> > > > > <jpotter8@bellsouth.net>
> > > > > Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2002 20:52
> > > > > Subject: RE: [Shotimes] RE: Gen I vs. Gen II:::::was:Wizard of
> > > Codes::Fwd:
> > > > > flashing air bag light
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Those were the first US cars, but the serious FWD drive effort
> > started
> > > > in
> > > > > > the late '70s. I had one of the new style Rivieras in '79, the
> > > Chrysler
> > > > > > Omni-Horizon was late '70s, GM X-cars in '80, etc. Ford was late
> to
> > > the
> > > > > game
> > > > > > with the Escort and Tempo/Topaz.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > FEWIW, I don't see where there will be any "history" on the SHO,
> as
> > it
> > > > > isn't
> > > > > > that unique. Cosworth Vega was as unique back in '75, Merkur
came
> > > along
> > > > in
> > > > > > mid '80s. Crossbred engines and bodies predated the SHO by many
> > years.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ron Porter
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
> > > > > > [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of
> alfitz@alfitz.com
> > > > > > Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2002 11:11 AM
> > > > > > To: _SHOTIMES II; David P
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [Shotimes] RE: Gen I vs. Gen II:::::was:Wizard of
> > > > > > Codes::Fwd: flashing air bag light
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You said; "so early in the FWD game".
> > > > > > How about the mass produced Toranados and Cadi from the 70s? 350
> CID
> > > > FWD.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Al Fitzgerald
> > > > > > alfitz@alfitz.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Also, this IS a FWD car. Few people, even today, equate FWD
with
> > > power
> > > > > or
> > > > > > > performance. Ford's probably lucky they were able to sell ANY
> > > > > performance
> > > > > > > vehicles so early in the FWD game. The SHO will definitely go
> down
> > > in
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > history books as one unique car with an unusual history.
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