[Shotimes] Re: Gen I vs. Gen II

Paul Nimz pnimz@V8SHO.com
Wed, 23 Oct 2002 21:42:46 -0500


Blending of the gas wrt additives is done before it goes in the pipeline.
At least at this end.

Paul Nimz
'97 TR SHO
'93 EG mtx SHO


----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark D. Mallory" <mmallory78@earthlink.net>
To: "Paul Nimz" <pnimz@v8sho.com>; <shotimes@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 8:17 PM
Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Re: Gen I vs. Gen II


> Well kind of... but not really.  It's all in the confusing terminology.
You
> have to think of it like this.  The refinery processes crude oil into many
> products one of which is strait gasoline.  (Strait gasoline is like the
corn
> and soybean... not much difference from one refinery to the next.) The
> refinery then sells that strait gasoline to BP, Sunoco, Mobile, Exxon,
> Marathon, or whomever.  Yes, BP (the gas station) buys gasoline from BP
the
> refinery, or Sunoco refineries, or Marathon refineries, or whomever is
> producing gasoline at that time.  The strait gasoline can then either go
to
> the pump as is or it gets blended with other additives, making it into a
> specific brand of gas.  That blended gas can then be sold to off-brand
> stations or go directly to brand name pumps.
>
>
> Mark Mallory
> Toledo, Ohio
> '95 SHO MTX
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
> > [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Paul Nimz
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 7:41 PM
> > To: shotimes@autox.team.net
> > Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Re: Gen I vs. Gen II
> >
> >
> > I think gas today is like the corn and soybeans at the elevator.
> > It is all
> > pumped into one big pipe and comes out all over the place.  Kind
> > of like the
> > genetically enhanced corn and beans.  I wonder how they keep them
> > separate.
> >
> > Paul Nimz
> > '97 TR SHO
> > '93 EG mtx SHO
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Epperly" <epperly1@optonline.net>
> > To: <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 5:50 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Re: Gen I vs. Gen II
> >
> >
> > > Yep, a while ago the production of heating oil increases and other
fuels
> > > decrease.
> > > As for off brand gas it used to be that they would get what the major
> > brands
> > > made that didn't meet their specs. years back when forced to buy as
they
> > > were the only ones open late I would see a decrease of 3-4 mpg over
name
> > > brands in NJ.
> > >
> > >             Ken
> > >
> > > > Most people don't realize that this is the case.  Actually
> > what happens
> > is
> > > > that refineries (doesn't matter who BP, Sunoco, Mobile, etc)
> > don't make
> > > > gasoline all the time.  Like all other industries, the price
> > and cost of
> > > > making gasoline fluctuates.  If it's not cost effective to
> > make gasoline
> > > > than they'll make and sell something else and buy the gasoline from
> > > someone
> > > > else and blend it to their own specifications.
> > > >
> > > > For example, if Sun can make more money selling propane or
> > jet fuel (as
> > > > opposed to gasoline), they'll cut back or eliminate the production
of
> > > > gasoline and focus on propane or jet fuel.  Obviously, Sun will
still
> > have
> > > > to supply it's gas stations with gasoline, so they'll buy gas from
> > someone
> > > > like BP or Mobile and blend it with the proper additives, test it
and
> > send
> > > > it to the gas stations.
> > > >
> > > > Long story short, the difference in brands is only in the blending
of
> > > > additives and octane ratings.  The gasoline itself is nearly
identical
> > > from
> > > > one refinery to the next.
> > > >
> > > > Mark Mallory
> > > > Toledo, Ohio
> > > > '95 SHO MTX
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
> > > > > [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of
BJamesjr@aol.com
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 5:40 PM
> > > > > To: shotimes@autox.team.net
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Re: Gen I vs. Gen II
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Around my area there is very little difference in the brand of
> > > > > gas.  There
> > > > > > are two pipelines in the area and they only have about 10
> > > > > > tanks at the
> > > > > > terminals.
> > > > >
> > > > > There was a story on the history channel a few weeks ago about
> > > > > pipelines and gasoline distribution.  They said that the
> > > > > pipelines were sort of like "common carriers", and all the
> > > > > companies could use them.  They said they would pump one thing
> > > > > for awhile, then switch over to something else and they would get
> > > > > very little intermixing at the interface between the different
> > > > > liquids, but they would take the liquid that they thought to be
> > > > > mixed and sell it to industries that didn't care if they had
> > > > > diesel an gasoline mixed.
> > > > >
> > > > > They did say that gasolines were closer to the same than the
> > > > > company's advertising would admit to, although they do mix in
> > > > > specific additives for different companies before it goes into the
> > > trucks.
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