[Shotimes] RE: Gen I vs. Gen II

Fri, 25 Oct 2002 11:34:03 -0400

I didn't like the SHO to the three-headed turtle. I only indicated that said
turtle also gets looks. IOW,  was slyly making a comment about looks being a
function of the eye of the beholder...

David P

95MTX

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Timothy Tyner" <shospeed@bigplanet.com>
To: <shotimes@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 13:16
Subject: Fw: Re: [Shotimes] RE: Gen I vs. Gen II

> Well, if you liken you SHO to a three headed turtle, pray tell, why would
> that be your car of choice.  I happen to very much like how the SHO's
look,
> all GEN's.
>
> Toolman
>
> -------Original Message-------
>
> From: David P
> Date: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 7:22:38 AM
> To: Timothy Tyner; shotimes@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] RE: Gen I vs. Gen II
>
> Three-headed turtles get plenty of looks, too...
>
>
> David P
>
> 95MTX
>
>
>
> ~
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Timothy Tyner" <shospeed@bigplanet.com>
> To: <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 13:55
> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] RE: Gen I vs. Gen II
>
>
> > I don't know about you guys, but my SHO's get plenty of looks. MIght
have
> > to do with the 17's and the cowl hoods though:D
> >
> > -------Original Message-------
> >
> > From: David P
> > Date: Monday, October 21, 2002 6:40:48 AM
> > To: shotimes@autox.team.net
> > Subject: Re: [Shotimes] RE: Gen I vs. Gen II
> >
> > Damn, get over your Gen1! ;)
> >
> > The reason you get acknowledged by Gen1 drivers is that the cars are to
> the
> > age that only people that have an interest in maintaining them are
willing
> > to drive them. The rest have either sold them or drove them into the
> ground.
> > It will be the same for the Gen2 in another 5 years, and you Gen1 owners
> > will be whining about how rare your cars have become. Still.
> >
> > Anyone with half-a-brain can spot the front end of a Gen2 SHO as it's
the
> > only one that came with fog lamps, and the headlamps "seem wider". Sure,
> the
> > lower valance is not gigantic. Big deal. There's a lot to be said for
> > subtlety. If you go by count, then Gen2 SLO has more differences in the
> > front than the Gen1. Fact of matter, though, is that 90% of the people
we
> > pass look at NEITHER of our SHOs. Neon lights don't get attention these
> > days.
> >
> >
> > David P
> >
> > 95MTX
> >
> >
> >
> > ~
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jim Ryan" <av8r567@optonline.net>
> > To: "Steve Tatro" <stevetatro@att.net>; <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2002 21:15
> > Subject: RE: [Shotimes] RE: Gen I vs. Gen II
> >
> >
> > > This argument can go on forever.
> > >
> > >
> > > > Gen1: 15" basketweaves instead of 14" wheel covers (although the
> > > > basketweaves were available on the SLO). Obviously '91 had the
> > > > non-directional slicers available (did they even have "SHO" on the
> > > > centercaps?)
> > >
> > > No the '91s did not come with those UGLY center caps.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Gen2: 16" directional slicers with "SHO" on every centercap,
> > > distinguishing
> > > > it from a SLO very easily.
> > > > Advantage: Gen2, since there was no sharing of wheels between SHO
and
> > SLO
> > > > and it provided more visible "SHO" markings.
> > >
> > > Well that's if you can read what the letters spell. FWIW, I think the
> > ugly,
> > > horizontal-line font that Ford chose makes it very difficult to read S
H
> > O,
> > > especially if it's upside-down or vertical.
> > >
> > > Advantage: Neither. No one is going to look that close.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Gen1: Aggressive front clip with fog lights.
> > > > Gen2: Aggressive front clip with fog lights.
> > > > Advantage: None.
> > >
> > > Mmmmm....
> > > Regular Grand Prix vs GTP nose - aggressive.
> > > Mustang LX vs Mustang GT nose - aggressive.
> > > Gen2 SLO vs Gen2 SHO nose - different but not aggressive. You Gen2
> owners
> > > are biased because you look at it everyday. The average person is not
> > going
> > > to notice the subtle difference.
> > >
> > > When I drive my '91+ and I pass another Gen1, I always get the
> obligatory
> > > wave, headlight flash, or horn honk. When I pass a Gen2 I get nothing
> > > because it's usually driven by some "fart" who doesn't even know what
> > > they're driving.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Gen1: Plastic door cladding with "Taurus SHO" on each side.
> > > > Gen2: Plastic door cladding with "SHO" on each side.
> > > > Advantage: Gen2, as the Gen1 clearly has "Taurus" visible 2 more
times
> > > from
> > > > the outside of the car (which is not a good thing)
> > >
> > > Gen1: Easy to read "Taurus SHO"
> > > Gen2: See previous comment about ugly, hard to read font. You Gen2
> > owners
> > > are biased because you look at it everyday and you know what it says.
> The
> > > average person will ignore it if they can't read it. IMO, it looks
like
> a
> > > bunch of deep scratches.
> > >
> > > Advantage: Gen1 on legibility alone. What's wrong with it being known
as
> > a
> > > Taurus?!?!? What kind of confusion will ensue when the average person
> > sees
> > > "Taurus" on the trunklid of your Gen2 but no where else on the car?
How
> > > would you explain that to a non-enthusiast?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Gen1: Aggressive rear bumper cover with "SHO" clearly visible.
> > > > Gen2: Aggressive rear bumper cover with "SHO" clearly visible.
> > > > Advantage: None.
> > >
> > > Gen1: Aggressive rear bumper cover with "SHO" clearly visible and
> > LEGIBLE.
> > > Gen2: More of that ugly, hard to read font in an even larger size. Now
> > it
> > > just looks like some really big scratches.
> > >
> > > Advantage: Clearly Gen1
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Gen1: Turn-down exhaust tips that can't be seen due to the
aggressive
> > > rear
> > > > bumper cover.
> > > > Gen2: Straight exhaust tips that can clearly be seen due to the
> > > redesigned
> > > > bumper cover.
> > > > Advantage: Gen2, purely from a visibility standpoint.
> > >
> > > Fine, I'll give you that one.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Gen1: No spoiler, rear decklid exactly same as SLO (exception being
> > '91+)
> > > > Gen2 Spoiler standard (except '92), clearly differentiating it from
> the
> > > > SLO.
> > > > Advantage: Gen2.
> > >
> > > Subtle difference. Actually, the design of the Gen2 decklid has a
little
> > > bit of a spoiler-look even without the SHO spoiler.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Gen1: Third brake light mounted on the rear dash, exactly the same
as
> > the
> > > > SLO.
> > > > Gen2: Third brake light mounted on the spoiler; none needed on the
> rear
> > > > dash (except '92).
> > > > Advantage: Gen2.
> > >
> > > Who gives a flying F? Again, the average person is not going to notice
> > the
> > > difference.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Clearly any Gen2 SHO differs more from the same year SLO than did
the
> > > > Gen1's. Although I've owned both, I can more easily spot a Gen2 SHO
a
> > > mile
> > > > away. Gen1's always make me take another look, at which point I
ponder
> > > "was
> > > > mine that ugly?" ;^)
> > >
> > > Well, to each his own. I will tell you this though, back in 1989 I was
> in
> > > college and working part-time at a gas station. The first Taurus SHO I
> > ever
> > > saw was a black '89 and I immediately noticed that it looked different
> > from
> > > the never ending stream of SLOs that came in to get gas. When I walked
> up
> > > to the driver side and said, "How may I help you?", I saw the manual
> trans
> > > shifter. This encounter did not make me want an SHO, but I did
recognize
> > > the car as something different. I graduated two years later and after
> > > considering and test-driving many other cars, I decided on my oxford
> white
> > > with mocha interior '91 Plus.
> > >
> > > I've never been a fan of dark color cars, and in the case of the Gen1
> SHOs
> > > the dark color hides the lower body cladding. But, my bright white '91
> > SHO
> > > certainly showcases all of the exterior cues that make the SHO look
> > > different than the SLO. So, in that case "I" am biased because of the
> > color
> > > of my car.
> > >
> > >
> > > James F. Ryan III
> > > '91 Plus - white/mocha
> > > formerly of Wayne, NJ
> > > living in Long Beach, CA for the next month
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