[Shotimes] Re: Temp. Sensor(Outside Temp.)

[James White]

Opps!

Forgot about that one!

regards, Jim White - greensho@crown.net

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Childs" <rbchilds@pacbell.net>
To: "James White" <greensho@crown.net>; <fwhittle@mindspring.com>;
<shotimes@autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 10:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Re: Temp. Sensor(Outside Temp.)


> Isn't there one more connected to the SHO logo on the
> passenger side dash that measures inside temp?
>
> -Ron Childs  '91
>
> --- James White <greensho@crown.net> wrote:
> > There are 5 sensors that measure temp on the SHO:
> >
> > A) The gauge sensor.  A $4 part at AZ.  Connected
> > only to the gauge and not
> > very accurate or long lived.
> >
> > B) The ECT sensor.  Connected only to the engine
> > computer.  They rarely go
> > bad and seem to be rather accurate, telling the
> > computer how much gas to
> > feed the motor when cold or hot.
> >
> > C) The water temp sensor for the climate control.
> > All that this does is to
> > keep the blower off until the coolant is warm enough
> > to have heat to the
> > inside of your SHO.
> >
> > D) The intake air temp sensor.  It sits in the air
> > filter box and feeds the
> > motor computer so it meters fuel properly.
> >
> > E) The ambient air temp sensor.  This feeds only the
> > climate control, so you
> > can see how cold (or warm) it is outside.  The
> > climate control will go to
> > full cold or to full hot when it malfunctions.  Rare
> > that they go bad, but
> > when they do, you have to over-ride them with either
> > a max cool or a max
> > heat setting on the climate control.
> >
> > All of the above have no connection with actual
> > overheating.  First assume
> > the gauge sender is bad and replace it.  Cheap!
> >
> > The electric fan motor could be bad.  It only comes
> > on at low speed if the
> > A/C if off and the motor is close to hot.  Or if the
> > A/C is on, but still
> > only at low speed.  You will have to either get the
> > fan motor rebuilt at a
> > motor shop or get one out of a salvaged SHO.  Try Al
> > Fitz.  As for the
> > relay, they are only rarely repairable, so pop for a
> > new one from Ford.
> > $100+
> >
> > Another thing to look for is the air deflector at
> > the subframe.  They
> > frequently get knocked off.  The result is
> > insufficient air through the
> > radiator.  Remember that the radiator is marginal
> > when new.  A little
> > deposit will impede flow and cause overheating.  Try
> > radiators.com for a new
> > one.  Also the fins on the A/C coil are really fine,
> > hold a lot of junk and
> > are easily mashed by junk to limit air flow.  Maybe
> > you will have to clean
> > and get a comb to straighten them?
> >
> > Jim White - greensho@crown.net
> > Valparaiso, Indiana
> > '93  5 SPEED   278k few mods
> > '95  5 SPEED   241k lots of mods
> > "double clutch"  it's good for both you and your SHO
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <fwhittle@mindspring.com>
> > To: <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 8:06 PM
> > Subject: [Shotimes] Re: Temp. Sensor(Outside Temp.)
> >
> >
> > > Wow--that's uncanny!  I just went out to my car,
> > which is sitting with the
> > hood up to help it cool off, to look at said sensor.
> >  It looks exactly like
> > the sensor I just bought that's supposed to be the
> > ECT sensor.  Although,
> > looking at the picture in the Helms, the ECT sensor
> > looks like what I
> > bought.  The receipt, however, says "Ambient Temp
> > Sensor".  What gives?
> > I've got a Borg Warner part #WT381, which was
> > indicated as the interchange
> > for the Wells SU201.  It's black plastic, with a 2
> > prong connector inside
> > the top.  Is this the ECT sensor that goes in the
> > water outlet connection?
> > By the way, my symptoms are: temp gauge reads low
> > side of normal on the
> > freeway, but overheats (all the way above the
> > "normal" range) in stop and go
> > traffic.  When I get a long stretch of road where I
> > can get up to over 40
> > mph, the temp goes down fairly rapidly.  Turning on
> > the AC doesn't seem to
> > help.  Is this the part I need to correct this?
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > Frank Whittle
> > > '95 ATX
> > >
> > > From: "James White" <greensho@crown.net>
> > > To: <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> > > Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Temp. Sensor(Outside
> > Temp.)
> > > Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 09:57:04 -0500
> > >
> > > Sorry that I forgot to indicate where outside temp
> > sensor was.
> > >
> > > About 3" to the right of the hood latch.  On a
> > bracket that is about 3"
> > > long.
> > >
> > > regards, Jim White - greensho@crown.net
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Kevin M. Bisch" <kevin624@bellatlantic.net>
> > > To: "James White" <greensho@crown.net>;
> > "Johnsho92"
> > > <john_sho92@yahoo.com>;
> > > <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> > > Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 7:54 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Temp. Sensor(Outside
> > Temp.)
> > >
> > >
> > > > Where is this sensor located exactly?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Kevin Bisch
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > At 10:57 PM 4/6/2003 -0500, James White wrote:
> > > > >This sensor is a thermistor (sp?) and likely it
> > got old and a little
> > > > >moisture got in it to give the EATC a false
> > reading.
> > > > >
> > > > >My '95MTX does that frequently.  Run the thing
> > though a car wash
> > > (touchless
> > > > >of course!) and then pop the hood. The water
> > that the bra held is
> > > dumped
> > > > >onto this sensor, and then it goes stupid.
> > Mine will go down to -40 at
> > > > >which point the damn EATC will turn the heat on
> > full blast unless the
> > > EATC
> > > > >is fully off, or you have it in "Max Cool"
> > position.
> > > > >
> > > > >The fix is a new sensor, but I have been both
> > too lazy and too busy
> > > workwise
> > > > >to go to a salvage yard or the Ford 'Stealer'
> > and get another sensor.
> > > It
> > > > >should be a 5 minute job to replace it.  Most
> > likely any sensor from
> > > Ford,
> > > > >Merc., or Lincoln would be the same.
> > > > >
> > > > >Jim White - greensho@crown.net
> > > > >Valparaiso, Indiana
> > > > >'93  5 SPEED   278k few mods
> > > > >'95  5 SPEED   241k lots of mods
> > > > >"double clutch"  it's good for both you and
> > your SHO
> > > > >
> > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > >
> > > > >From: "Johnsho92" <john_sho92@yahoo.com>
> > > > >To: <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> > > > >Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2003 7:57 PM
> > > > >Subject: [Shotimes] Temp. Sensor(Outside Temp.)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Can anyone help point out there the Sensor
> > for outside
> > > > > > Temp, the one on the climate control, is
> > located?
> > > > > > Just today I got a false reading, it's 80
> > degrees
> > > > > > outside and I see the 'outside temp.'
> > dropping to
> > > > > > about 25 degrees.   Any idea why? or what
> > went wrong?
> > > > > >  Thanks.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -John
> >
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