[Shotimes] OT - Baghdad has fallen

[Mark Blacknell]

At 10:15 AM 4/10/2003 -0400, Ron Nottingham wrote:
>I think it's great that we are helping the Iraqi's gain their freedom from
>Saddam.
That's one of many results.  A result that could have been achieved without 
all of the other wreckage along the way.

>Now, to all of the negative people...  If you can think of a better country
>to live, why not move there?  If you are that unhappy living in the USA,
>what are the reasons stopping you from moving?
Ah, the old love it or leave it trick.  C'mon Ron, you can do better than 
that.  What, I'm supposed to up and leave because I think the current WH 
occupant is making this country - and this world - a worse place?  Screw 
that.  This is my country, too.  For every of the jingoism-spouting 
halfwits that posted earlier on this thread, there are people who realize 
that humanity does not stop at the borders of the 50 states, and that 
obligations flow from that.

I spent the first twenty years of my life in tow from one country to 
another, following a non-US citizen who served in the US Army, 
who  happened to be my father.  He didn't do that to protect the physical 
borders of a country he didn't even grow up in  - but to advance the ideals 
which America stands for on its best days.  As a result, my loyalty isn't 
to some piece of dirt - idiocy like "the Homeland" - but to the 
ideas.  When an Administration drops those ideals, I drop that 
Administration.  And the fools that support it.

Mark