[Shotimes] (OT) CTS-V in Detroit Free Press

[Ron Porter]

The Ford-Mercury name had nothing to do with it. The car is a dog, it would
have sold as poorly if it were a Ford. The CV LX Sport gives up almost no
performance, and lists for $7K less........but I'm not sure if that was
selling very well, either.

The S/C Cobra motor in the Marauder would have sold every one that they
could build.

Ron Porter

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Marauder is dead.  NO more of them to be made after the
first year.

Local dealer also got in a BLUE one!  Still has the two he
originally got (one with my name on it, I promtly removed my
name after driving it).

They predicted selling 15,000 or more the first year, so
far, they have sold under 3000.  Total failure, that could
have been predicted as soon as they put Mercury on the body
instead of FORD.  The Marauder didn't sell back in the 60's
worth a darn,  these things sell to the people that bought
them back then, ask the SS Impala guys!  Nobody was
clamoring for them to bring back the Marauder, but a LOT of
Ford people wanted a new XL500 Galaxie!  Same, car, Ford
grill, Ford name and it would have sold twice as many,
probably still a dismal failure without more power, but
guaranteed failure with Mercury on it!

Don M.

Ron Porter wrote:
> Speaking of Impala SS.....it seems that all talk about the Marauder has
> totally stopped!!
>
> I suspect that sales are in the toilet. For a car that I originally
thought
> would absolutely positively be my next car, it has totally dropped off my
> radar screen as something that I would even consider buying.
>
> Ron Porter
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Don McKinnon (AST) [mailto:dmckinnon@asttechlabs.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 2:36 PM
> To: Ron Porter; Dave Kegel; Shotimes
> Subject: RE: [Shotimes] (OT) CTS-V in Detroit Free Press
>
>
> Maybe GM will be providing an Impalla SS model on this platform!
>
> I still dream of Ford shipping over the Falcon XR8 model from Australia
with
> the 5.4l DOHC motor!
>
> Wishing right now I could just by $2000 in bicycles...
>
> Don McKinnon
> 95 MTX - White/Mocha 91k miles
> Stage 1 Power Package with Stage 1cams
> Canyon Carver Road/Race Suspension
> Quaife & HiRevs Competition Clutch
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
> [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Ron Porter
> Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 1:54 PM
> To: Dave Kegel; Shotimes
> Subject: RE: [Shotimes] (OT) CTS-V in Detroit Free Press
>
>
> The one thing that irritates me about it......and it's why I still feel
that
> the Cadillac guys are clueless....is that they are basically using the
> Corvette motor in it. Now, the Corvette-Z28-T/A motor is a nice, advanced
> pushrod motor.....in a Chevy or a Pontiac....but why not have a unique
> Cadillac with a kick-ass Northstar that does 400 HP?
>
> I just get the feeling that the GM guys just don't understand what it
truly
> takes to compete in the M5 market.
>
> Ron Porter
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
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> Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 1:33 PM
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> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] (OT) CTS-V in Detroit Free Press
>
>
> There's more info, and a picture of it here:
>
> http://www.cadillac.com/cadillacjsp/futuremodels/vseries/overview.html
>
> I don't really like its looks either, but it sounds like a hell of a fun
car
> nonetheless.  Lot's of HP, RWD, a V8 stick, and four doors.
>
> Dave
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ron Porter" <ronporter@prodigy.net>
> To: "Shotimes" <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> Sent: April 16, 2003 12:21 PM
> Subject: [Shotimes] (OT) CTS-V in Detroit Free Press
>
>
>
>>And the car is still ugly.......
>>
>>http://www.freep.com/money/autoreviews/cts15_20030415.htm
>>
>>Anyway, what caught my eye in the article was this paragraph:
>>
>>"Cadillac tested the car extensively on Germany's famous Nuerburgring
>>racetrack, which led to suspension upgrades, including a bar connecting
>
> the
>
>>right and left front suspension towers for better handling and steering at
>>high speeds."
>>
>>So the engineers scammed a trip to Germany to run the 'Ring, just to
>>determine that the car needed a strut tower brace? I would like to think
>>it's what a marketing wonk was told to put in the story, but if that's
>
> what
>
>>it took GM to figure it out, they still are clueless. I don't think that
>
> BMW
>
>>engineers are losing any sleep!!
>>
>>Ron Porter
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