[Shotimes] (OT) CTS-V in Detroit Free Press

[James White]

The problem with the Marauder is real simple.  Ford Motor Company got an
attack of the wienies!

They didn't put a big enough motor in it!  And the Caddy CTS isn't much
better!

I may buy another new sport sedan, but only if it has a BIG motor and not
much out there has a BIG motor.

This Marauder should have had 350-400 HP.  And it would have been easy and
cheap for Ford to do it, but the wienie factor (the corporate lawyers and
CAFE bean counters) came into play, so they only added a little bit of
power, and some looks to come up with a flop.

Jim White - greensho@crown.net
Valparaiso, Indiana
'93  5 SPEED   278k few mods
'95  5 SPEED   242k lots of mods
"double clutch"  it's good for both you and your SHO

----- Original Message -----
From: "James F. Ryan III" <av8r567@optonline.net>
To: "'Don McKinnon (AST)'" <dmckinnon@asttechlabs.com>; "'Ron Porter'"
<ronporter@prodigy.net>; "'Shotimes'" <shotimes@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 8:42 PM
Subject: RE: [Shotimes] (OT) CTS-V in Detroit Free Press


> The local Lincoln/Mercury dealer had 8 Marauders.  I went out of the state
> for 2 months on business and when I returned....8 Marauders parked exactly
> where I last saw them.
>
> This was the same case for the Lincoln Blackwood.  They eventually
> disappeared from the lot when they were bought by....people who put big
> chrome 20" dubs on them.
>
>
> If SHO = Edsel, what does Marauder equal?
>
>
> Jim Ryan
> Wayne, NJ
> '91 Plus - all white/mocha with fiberglass hood, rod shifter, & rear
spoiler
>
> 255 Lph fuel pump, SHO Shop can & horn, 80mm MAF, S&B cone filter, SHO
Shop
> HiFlow Y-pipe & cat-back exhaust, SHO Shop LPM, SHO Shop underdrive
pulleys,
> SHO Shop HiRevs Jr clutch & steel billet LiteWeight flywheel, reinforced
> engine & trans mounts, SHO Shop TQ limiters, SHO NUT aluminum SFBs, FPS
'96
> SHO front brakes, Carbotech F brake pads, Nook's full-body SFCs, Koni adj
> struts, SHO Shop linear springs, 24mm FSB, 26mm RSB, SHO Shop steel f&r
> STBs, Bridgestone Potenza RE-730 225/55-16, CATZ MSP fog lights, police
> grille
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
[mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
> > On Behalf Of Don McKinnon (AST)
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 2:56 PM
> > To: Ron Porter; Shotimes
> > Subject: RE: [Shotimes] (OT) CTS-V in Detroit Free Press
> >
> > I see one locally these days (Marauder).  Really is a nice car, but
> > 4200lbs
> > with a high rev Cobra motor doesn't cut it for around town folk.  I
> > thought
> > Ford was going to SC the motor for 2004?  As usual too late...
> >
> > At one point a local Mercury dealer had an ad in the paper for over a
> > month
> > stating they had over 9 in stock!
> >
> > Don McKinnon
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
> > [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Ron Porter
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 2:44 PM
> > To: Shotimes
> > Subject: RE: [Shotimes] (OT) CTS-V in Detroit Free Press
> >
> >
> > Speaking of Impala SS.....it seems that all talk about the Marauder has
> > totally stopped!!
> >
> > I suspect that sales are in the toilet. For a car that I originally
> > thought
> > would absolutely positively be my next car, it has totally dropped off
my
> > radar screen as something that I would even consider buying.
> >
> > Ron Porter
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Don McKinnon (AST) [mailto:dmckinnon@asttechlabs.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 2:36 PM
> > To: Ron Porter; Dave Kegel; Shotimes
> > Subject: RE: [Shotimes] (OT) CTS-V in Detroit Free Press
> >
> >
> > Maybe GM will be providing an Impalla SS model on this platform!
> >
> > I still dream of Ford shipping over the Falcon XR8 model from Australia
> > with
> > the 5.4l DOHC motor!
> >
> > Wishing right now I could just by $2000 in bicycles...
> >
> > Don McKinnon
> > 95 MTX - White/Mocha 91k miles
> > Stage 1 Power Package with Stage 1cams
> > Canyon Carver Road/Race Suspension
> > Quaife & HiRevs Competition Clutch
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
> > [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Ron Porter
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 1:54 PM
> > To: Dave Kegel; Shotimes
> > Subject: RE: [Shotimes] (OT) CTS-V in Detroit Free Press
> >
> >
> > The one thing that irritates me about it......and it's why I still feel
> > that
> > the Cadillac guys are clueless....is that they are basically using the
> > Corvette motor in it. Now, the Corvette-Z28-T/A motor is a nice,
advanced
> > pushrod motor.....in a Chevy or a Pontiac....but why not have a unique
> > Cadillac with a kick-ass Northstar that does 400 HP?
> >
> > I just get the feeling that the GM guys just don't understand what it
> > truly
> > takes to compete in the M5 market.
> >
> > Ron Porter
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
> > [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Dave Kegel
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 1:33 PM
> > To: Shotimes
> > Subject: Re: [Shotimes] (OT) CTS-V in Detroit Free Press
> >
> >
> > There's more info, and a picture of it here:
> >
> > http://www.cadillac.com/cadillacjsp/futuremodels/vseries/overview.html
> >
> > I don't really like its looks either, but it sounds like a hell of a fun
> > car
> > nonetheless.  Lot's of HP, RWD, a V8 stick, and four doors.
> >
> > Dave
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ron Porter" <ronporter@prodigy.net>
> > To: "Shotimes" <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: April 16, 2003 12:21 PM
> > Subject: [Shotimes] (OT) CTS-V in Detroit Free Press
> >
> >
> > > And the car is still ugly.......
> > >
> > > http://www.freep.com/money/autoreviews/cts15_20030415.htm
> > >
> > > Anyway, what caught my eye in the article was this paragraph:
> > >
> > > "Cadillac tested the car extensively on Germany's famous Nuerburgring
> > > racetrack, which led to suspension upgrades, including a bar
connecting
> > the
> > > right and left front suspension towers for better handling and
steering
> > at
> > > high speeds."
> > >
> > > So the engineers scammed a trip to Germany to run the 'Ring, just to
> > > determine that the car needed a strut tower brace? I would like to
think
> > > it's what a marketing wonk was told to put in the story, but if that's
> > what
> > > it took GM to figure it out, they still are clueless. I don't think
that
> > BMW
> > > engineers are losing any sleep!!
> > >
> > > Ron Porter
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Shotimes mailing list
> > > Shotimes@autox.team.net
> > > http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo/shotimes
> > _______________________________________________
> > Shotimes mailing list
> > Shotimes@autox.team.net
> > http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo/shotimes
> > _______________________________________________
> > Shotimes mailing list
> > Shotimes@autox.team.net
> > http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo/shotimes
> > _______________________________________________
> > Shotimes mailing list
> > Shotimes@autox.team.net
> > http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo/shotimes
> > _______________________________________________
> > Shotimes mailing list
> > Shotimes@autox.team.net
> > http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo/shotimes
> _______________________________________________
> Shotimes mailing list
> Shotimes@autox.team.net
> http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo/shotimes