[Shotimes] Annie goes solo too
Robert Bruce
rbruce@bellatlantic.net
Sun, 3 Aug 2003 20:08:48 -0400
NASCAR teardown is normally for the winner, the pole qualifier and one car
at random. Teardown consists of a run through the regular pre-race
inspection plus cc the heads, carb inspection, detailed inspection of the
ignition boxes and tach, and a more thorough visual inspection of the entire
vehicle. Takes about an hour or so max. Some tracks also dictate a check
of shocks & springs. There's still plenty of room for creativity.
Robert Bruce
93 atx
-----Original Message-----
From: Paul L Fisher [mailto:sho@paul-fisher.com]
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 7:14 PM
To: Robert Bruce; shotimes@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Annie goes solo too
Well yes, but in NASCAR, for example, they provide a fair amount of the
'regulated' parts and also have templates for the body. Also, they tear down
most of the top 5 or so cars to make sure no tomfoolery was going on.
Paul L Fisher
'93 Ford Taurus SHO Crimson Clearcoat ATX 175K Build date 11/18/1992
- K&N Panel filter, Tokico Struts, Eibach Springs, Dynomax cat-back, Holley
190lph fuel pump, FPS rebuilt ATX, 26mm rear sway bar, Performance-Plus
Stainless Steel Y-pipe, '96 brake upgrade, Proportioning valve plugs, Delrin
sub-frame bushings, Amsoil Series 2000 0W-30 oil, Amsoil Synthetic ATF.
SHO Club member http://www.shoclub.com/
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Bruce" <rbruce@bellatlantic.net>
To: <shotimes@autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 5:18 PM
Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Annie goes solo too
> I'm not saying that's what I believe. That's just the way it works in
> professional racing. When your job is to win, you must do whatever is
> necessary to get the job done. That is just the way the racing world
works.
>
> Robert Bruce
> 93 atx
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul L Fisher [mailto:sho@paul-fisher.com]
> Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 3:51 PM
> To: Robert Bruce; shotimes@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Annie goes solo too
>
>
> The difference is that the SCCA and most other Solo II sanctioning bodies,
> the tech inspection is purely for safety or OBVIOUS rule violations. Other
> than that, it is self-governing. If a competitor thinks you are cheating,
> there is a formal challenge process.
>
> Your type of thinking is what is wrong with the world. I am all for
> 'stretching' the rules (I speed every time I drive) but I refuse to hide
> behind the 'everyone else is doing it' excuse. If I get caught speeding, I
> usually plead guilty and get on with my life.
>
> Paul L Fisher
> '93 Ford Taurus SHO Crimson Clearcoat ATX 175K Build date 11/18/1992
> - K&N Panel filter, Tokico Struts, Eibach Springs, Dynomax cat-back,
Holley
> 190lph fuel pump, FPS rebuilt ATX, 26mm rear sway bar, Performance-Plus
> Stainless Steel Y-pipe, '96 brake upgrade, Proportioning valve plugs,
Delrin
> sub-frame bushings, Amsoil Series 2000 0W-30 oil, Amsoil Synthetic ATF.
>
> SHO Club member http://www.shoclub.com/
> Check out my web site http://www.paul-fisher.com/
> Amsoil dealer http://www.paul-fisher.com/oil.htm
>
> Get $5 free from PayPal! https://www.paypal.com/refer/pal=P3XEFFBFUFKN6
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Robert Bruce" <rbruce@bellatlantic.net>
> To: <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 11:41 AM
> Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Annie goes solo too
>
>
> > As for motorsports, cheating isn't cheating until you get caught. Up to
> > that point it is only creative interpretation of the rules. If it
wasn't
> > for each racer's interpretation of the rules, the sanctioning bodies
> > wouldn't need inspectors.
> >
> > Robert Bruce
> > 93 atx
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
> > [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Ron Porter
> > Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 10:46 AM
> > To: 'Paul L Fisher'; 'Carl Prochilo'; shotimes@autox.team.net
> > Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Annie goes solo too
> >
> >
> > 3.2 in an MTX is legal? How is that? Considered a legal overbore?
> >
> > Who needs to mess with brake plugs, EH runners and other stuff when you
> can
> > legally cheat with a 3.2??
> >
> > FWIW, there was a Peter Egan story a few years back about one of the
cars
> he
> > was building for a stock class (don't remember the car or the
> > engine......Formula Ford, maybe??). Anyway, he went to get a stock,
legal
> > camshaft done for him. Guy asked him if he wanted that, or the cheater
> > 'stock" grind with a faster ramp (but still with stock lift & duration)
> that
> > all of the other racers wee running? Yeah, it's cheating I guess, but
the
> > parts meet the specs in the rules, even though they are being "bent" a
> bit.
> >
> > Dancing around the rules probably started with the first-ever racing
> class.
> > Smokey Yunick made a career of it!!
> >
> > Ron Porter
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
[mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
> > On Behalf Of Paul L Fisher
> > Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 10:27 AM
> > To: Carl Prochilo; shotimes@autox.team.net
> > Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Annie goes solo too
> >
> >
> > 3.2L is legal. That is the stupid part. In addition, the 26mm rear bar,
> > unless
> > it came on that car, moves you as well.
> >
> > Paul L Fisher
> > '93 Ford Taurus SHO Crimson Clearcoat ATX 175K Build date 11/18/1992
> > - K&N Panel filter, Tokico Struts, Eibach Springs, Dynomax cat-back,
> Holley
> > 190lph fuel pump, FPS rebuilt ATX, 26mm rear sway bar, Performance-Plus
> > Stainless Steel Y-pipe, '96 brake upgrade, Proportioning valve plugs,
> Delrin
> > sub-frame bushings, Amsoil Series 2000 0W-30 oil, Amsoil Synthetic ATF.
> >
> > SHO Club member http://www.shoclub.com/
> > Check out my web site http://www.paul-fisher.com/
> > Amsoil dealer http://www.paul-fisher.com/oil.htm
> >
> > Get $5 free from PayPal! https://www.paypal.com/refer/pal=P3XEFFBFUFKN6
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Carl Prochilo
> > To: Ron Porter ; 'Paul L Fisher' ; 'van Oss' ; shotimes@autox.team.net
> > Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 9:22 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Annie goes solo too
> >
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Carl Prochilo
> > 92 Ultra Red Crimson
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ron Porter" <ronporter@prodigy.net>
> > To: "'Paul L Fisher'" <sho@paul-fisher.com>; "'van Oss'"
> > <vanOss@centurytel.net>; <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 9:58 AM
> > Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Annie goes solo too
> >
> >
> > > Besides, are there any G Stock SHOs running that don't have EH
runners
> > and
> > > other tricks? Is there anyone else running G Stock (or any other
> > > stock/production class) that isn't "bending" the rules a bit?
> >
> > Or a 3.2L... Oooops~
> >
> > > I guess if the
> > > SHO was a competitive car in it's class, being closer to stock would
> be
> > a
> > > better idea if you are chasing records, but since the SHO has just
> about
> > > always been getting it's ass kicked in G production anyway, I guess
a
> > little
> > > "rules bending" to hold off total humiliation isn't too bad!!
> >
> > Any specific reason the SHO isn't competitive?
> >
> > >
> > > Ron Porter
> >
> >
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