[Shotimes] about the intake

[Paul Nimz]

I took the runner extensions out of my '97 once.  Couldn't wait to put them
back in.  It was like no secondaries at all.

Paul Nimz
'97 TR
'93 EG mtx


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kirk Doucette" <Kirk.doucette@verizon.net>
To: "Bruce Malachuk" <bmalach1@nycap.rr.com>; "Eric Keller"
<unterhausen@yahoo.com>; <shotimes@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 9:55 PM
Subject: RE: [Shotimes] about the intake


> The longer the runner the more toqure you will get from it, up to a point
> where you go to far beyond the resonant pulses.
>
> This is one thing that I like better on the Gen 3, its much eaiser to mess
> with this, we only have on tank and to make the runners longer, you could
> essentially just make the rubber connectors a bit longer, but you would
need
> to be on a dyno (preferably an engine dyno) and play with this..
>
> Now to find that intake that was shown in autoweek YEARS ago that had the
> dual surg tanks for the GEN 3.   Basically a v6 intake on a V8
>
> Kirk J Doucette
> NESHOC President
> Stormtrooper-97 White
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
[mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]On
> Behalf Of Bruce Malachuk
> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 9:25 PM
> To: Eric Keller; shotimes@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] about the intake
>
> Those are the intake horns that are attached to the short runners. I
believe
> that the design of them makes it so that all the air is speeded up over
the
> radius that the air makes. Lon runners bolt up straight to the intake
> pleneum.
>
> Bruce
> 94 Opal Frost MTX
> 93 Black ATX - winter beater then parts car :-)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Eric Keller" <unterhausen@yahoo.com>
> To: <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 8:37 PM
> Subject: [Shotimes] about the intake
>
>
> > All this talk about porting intakes has me bothered
> > about one detail.  When I took off the crossover tube
> > on the DIS side for the first time, it bothered me a
> > lot to see that the long runners were extended into
> > the center of the intake.  Do all Gen 1/2 have these
> > extensions?
> >
> > Now, when I was but an undergrad, the mechanical
> > engineering department had this experiment involving a
> > 2 cycle gas engine with rubber hoses for an intake.
> > You were supposed to find out which rubber hose made
> > the engine run best.  None of them made any
> > difference, because they never tuned the motor.  But
> > in class they explained that the intake length
> > determines its resonant frequency, and you want to
> > match that to the speed you are interested in.
> >
> > So when I looked into the intake and saw those pieces
> > of tubing sticking into the middle, I assumed that
> > they couldn't figure out how to make the long runners
> > long enough to work at low rpm's and lengthened them
> > with the tube inside the plenum.  But, it seems like
> > they would really make a mess out of the airflow,
> > dwarfing the effect of any mismatch between the heads
> > and the intake.
> >
> > Any thoughts?  Barring that, any comments?
> > Eric
> >
> >
> >
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