[Shotimes] Interesting...porting the intake

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Wed, 6 Aug 2003 14:19:10 -0400 (EDT)


Bruce
My 1988 Tempo felt fast in High School-I had nothing to compare it to!

:)

Ian


> even though I've always bought used cars, and had plenty of hand me 
down
> ones from my family, every one of the new cars my parents ever had 
were run
> hard in the first 100 miles or so. I can remember a 91 Sable with a 
3.8 that
> my father got as a company car. Well the first night he had it on the 
way
> home from the dealer, he couldn't resist taking it home the backway 
through
> a fairly steep and windy mountain road. He had been in love with FWD 
cars
> cause of the ability to power out of corners so well. Well at the 
time I was
> 14-15 and was riding home with him, but it was a constant mash the 
gas, then
> let the engine brake the car befoer the turn. And many of these turns 
were
> rated at like 15-20mph. Then as soon as the apex of the turn was 
reached,
> mash the gas again to the next corner. Well this one stretch of roads 
was
> about 8 miles of that up hill in september in the Catskills of NY. He 
drove
> the car lightly for the following day for about 200 miles on a family 
trip
> to visit my uncle in Vermont. The very following day he had the oil 
changed.
> 
> The acceleration and power that engine produced is what hooked me on 
the
> Taurus & Sable body way back when, and when that car was handed to me 
at 75k
> for me to drive to and from High School, I can safely say that it 
sure felt
> stronger than any 3.8 Sable or Taurus I have ever been in. I just had 
the
> oppertunity to work on a 92 Sable, 3.8 with 37k miles on it a few 
weeks
> back. That car was old woman driven, and prolly "gently" broken in. 
Even
> after a full tune, new motormount, tranny flush and fill, and a PS 
flush,
> that car still didn't feel as strong as that 91 I had in HS. I broke 
2 front
> motor mounts in that 91 that I had in the first year of driving it. 
Little
> did my parents know how I really drove that car, loads of 0-60 runs 
from
> stoplight run with my friends when we off the mountain, but never 
going over
> that cause we were all "new" drivers and didn't want to lose our 
licenses.
> But that car was broken in hard, and it ran really strong.
> 
> I really believe, you break in a car like its a got some power and it 
will
> feel like that all its life. You breakin like an old lady and the car 
will
> feel like one all its life. Right there could be the difference as to 
why
> some feel stronger than others.
> 
> Bruce
> 94 Opal Frost MTX
> 93 Black ATX - winter beater then parts car :-)
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ron Porter" <ronporter@prodigy.net>
> To: "'John Weidenbenner'" <johnjweid@earthlink.net>; "'SHOtimes'"
> <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 10:55 AM
> Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Interesting...porting the intake
> 
> 
> > Supposedly it is mostly the rings, followed by the wear patterns on 
the
> > bearings. For all of the articles that I save, the one I didn't was 
a Pat
> > Bedard article in C&D in maybe the late '80s on this subject. He was
> talking
> > to a Ford engineer (IIRC) about break-in, and the engineer 
described the
> > "drive it like you stole it" method. The engineer brought up an 
example of
> a
> > press fleet car (a GT 5.0....I think...it's been awhile!!) that was
> flogged
> > unmercifully. When Ford got it back, they said it was the
> strongest-running
> > GT that they ever experienced! They supposedly removed the engine 
to tear
> it
> > down to see if they could determine exactly why that was.
> >
> > Personal experience: My two brand-new SHOs were broken in this way 
(my
> wife
> > burned the tire on the'99 driving out of the dealership!!). Both 
the '89
> and
> > '99 were strong runners in relation to other SHOs out there. In 
fact when
> > the '99 had about 2K on it, it went to Atlanta for the Convention 
and was
> > flogged at the track and dragstrip in 100-degree heat. After it got
> through
> > the full 10K to really loosen it up, it was the best (at the time) 
running
> > Gen 3 SHO at the dragstrip (and yes, Kirk, at a couple of different
> > tracks!!)
> >
> > Ron Porter
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-
admin@autox.team.net]
> > On Behalf Of John Weidenbenner
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 2:20 AM
> > To: SHOtimes
> > Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Interesting...porting the intake
> >
> >
> > What difference does that make? Looser bearings? More or less
> > sealing/friction of the piston rings? "Bedding" in the engine block 
(like
> > making the brakes work "better")?
> >
> > John W.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Paul Nimz" <niks@dlogue.net>
> > To: "Dave Kegel" <d.kegel@comcast.net>; "SHOtimes"
> <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 12:50 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Interesting...porting the intake
> >
> >
> > > I think it is in how the motor is broke in.
> > >
> > > Paul Nimz
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