[Shotimes] Interesting...porting the intake
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alfitz@alfitz.com
Thu, 7 Aug 2003 09:51:59 -0500
LAND ROVER??
I just happen to have a really nice 2000 Range Rover 4.6 HSE for sale....
Al Fitz
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Nimz" <niks@dlogue.net>
To: <shotimes@autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 12:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Interesting...porting the intake
> Yes buy a Ford then they can spend the profits buying Volvo, Land Rover,
> Jaguar, Mazda.... Did I leave any one out????
>
> Paul Nimz
> '97 TR
> '93 EG mtx
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Donald Mallinson" <dmall@mwonline.net>
> To: "John Weidenbenner" <johnjweid@earthlink.net>
> Cc: "Ron Porter" <ronporter@prodigy.net>; <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 7:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Interesting...porting the intake
>
>
> > John,
> >
> > You know what I mean, An Acura built in Ohio sends the
> > profits to Japan. A Caddy built in North America keeps more
> > of the money here. If I can do that and still satisfy my
> > needs, I will.
> >
> > Buying American still does mean something, but it can't be
> > done absolutely, just as you can't say "buying American"
> > absolutely is obsolete. Yes I have a Japanese motor in my
> > SHO's. I have owned foreign cars and motorcycles.
> >
> > As I said, I would rather buy from a typical "American"
> > manufacturer than the other options. Ford, GM, Even Daimler
> > Chrysler. Yes Ford owns other companies, some of them own
> > part of Ford, etc etc, it is a global economy etc etc.
> >
> > I think we should be applauding Caddy for doing a great job
> > of re-inventing itself within just a few years. If the
> > press would get off their butts and DRIVE a Deville for a
> > while, they would realize that it is a great car with
> > supreme luxury and American style. Superb handling, more
> > power than most of the competition, great MPG (better than
> > the V8 SHO! and more HP) and very good quality. Also
> > selling well, and not just to the over 80 crowd. CAn't wait
> > for the next generation of that one. The new Seville (just
> > STS in new-speak at Cadillac) is getting early rave reviews.
> >
> > Buying American may not mean exactly the same as it used to,
> > but it still means something, and can't hurt to use it for a
> > goal.
> >
> > Don Mallinson
> >
> > John Weidenbenner wrote:
> > > Buy American is an obsolete term. Evevn my Acura built in Marysville
OH
> has
> > > a tranny made in Japan.
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Donald Mallinson" <dmall@mwonline.net>
> > > To: "Ron Porter" <ronporter@prodigy.net>
> > > Cc: <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 11:08 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Interesting...porting the intake
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>Ron,
> > >>
> > >>I figured you would chime back! :)
> > >>
> > >>I think I got your comments figured right. Again, not that
> > >>I totally disagree with you, just that I think your
> > >>perspective is still a little bit off. Even today a 220 hp
> > >>car is still more high performance than bread and butter
> > >>family sedan. The typical "bread and butter" car is still
> > >>well under 200 hp, and few have the handling to match a 15
> > >>year old SHO even today. A typical current higher
> > >>performance car is still not over 220 hp with very few
> > >>exceptions. The bland, but high HP Nissan universal motor
> > >>being the major exception. Everything else is in a higher
> > >>price range than the SHO ever was, even with inflation, for
> > >>the most part.
> > >>
> > >>I think BMW may be the most overrated car in history. It is
> > >>nice, and maybe even the top of the heap, but it ain't THAT
> > >>much better than the SHO for the money. I HAVE given the
> > >>BMW cars a chance, and may even desire to own one some day,
> > >>but direct comparison of my 7 year old 96 to a new 530i was
> > >>enough to let me cool my needs for a new car for a while.
> > >>Yep, the 530 was nicer, but not THAT much nicer. Should
> > >>have been way superior for $45,000. And still just 225 hp?
> > >> WAY down compared to the Japanese competition. Why
> > >>doesn't everyone blast the Beemer for that lack of power?
> > >>Smooth will only get them so many bonus points in my book.
> > >>Why can't BMW get more HP out of that ancient motor?
> > >>
> > >>Now to fully incur your wrath, I will tell you that I am
> > >>seriously considering the Caddy CTS as my next new car. I
> > >>still would rather buy American and my test of a 220 hp auto
> > >>CTS when they first came out was impressive. Quality, yep,
> > >>power, yep, style? That is very personal, but today, that
> > >>CTS style is VERY much copied by the supposed "better"
> > >>brands, and the CTS is starting to look like it will age
> > >>well. Yes I would like to have the V version with 400 hp,
> > >>but not sure about availablilty. The new motor in the base
> > >>Auto car, solves most of the lack of HP situation and that
> > >>motor will get the manual next year...something to think about.
> > >>
> > >>Don Mallinson
> > >>
> > >>Ron Porter wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>I figured you would chime in!!!
> > >>>
> > >>>You read more into what I have stated for years. And Mark has shown
my
> > >>>14-year-old comments to be true. The 3.0 SHO motor in a 3,000 # car
is
> > >>
> > > an
> > >
> > >>>exceptional runner. It's a matter of perspective. My perspective is
> from
> > >>>owning cars that were much quicker than the SHO, others have
different
> > >>>experiences (my "FSS" comes to mind!)
> > >>>
> > >>>Other point is that the SHO was the "performance car" back in those
> > >>
> > > days.
> > >
> > >>>Today, these cars are the bread-and-butter family sedans with 225-275
> > >>
> > > HP, as
> > >
> > >>>opposed to having maybe 150-175 back in that day.
> > >>>
> > >>>>From the perspective of American cars, and even cars like the 535i
BMW
> > >>
> > > in
> > >
> > >>>the late '80s, the SHO "is" low on torque. Again, a matter of
> > >>
> > > perspective.
> > >
> > >>>There is also much more to a car than just the engine, and this is
> where
> > >>
> > > the
> > >
> > >>>BMWs and others have excelled.
> > >>>
> > >>>Ron Porter
> > >>
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