[Shotimes] Foreign vs. Domestic (was: Who the Hell Knows)

[Brad Corradi]

This whole argument is pointless and a waste of bandwidth.  It is about as
worth while arguing about as the Chevy vs. Ford argument.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron Porter" <ronporter@prodigy.net>
To: "'Jonathon Beisler'" <JBEIS001@stvincentshealth.com>;
<shotimes@autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 11:00 AM
Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Foreign vs. Domestic (was: Who the Hell Knows)


> Sounds good to me!!  ;-)
>
> Ron Porter
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
> On Behalf Of Jonathon Beisler
> Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 9:35 AM
> To: shotimes@autox.team.net
> Subject: [Shotimes] Foreign vs. Domestic (was: Who the Hell Knows)
>
>
> I'm sure no one wants to here my .02 cents, but I'm gonna spout off
> anyway....
> I will never buy another American "made" product unless maybe I buy a Ford
> truck.  The quality, dependability and resale value of American name brand
> products is just plain freaking scary.  And I speak with experience.  I
> owned a Ford Ranger, didn't have any problems with it but a year after I
got
> it, it was worth less than half what I paid for it.  I took a bath on it
> when my financial situation changed.  :(  At the same time, I had an Acura
> TL 3.2 with Navigation.  I bought it in 2000, kept it through last year,
put
> 50,000 miles on it and I swear, if you covered up the odo, you would have
> thought it just came off the lot and I covered the loan when I had to sell
> it.  My Ranger had squeaks three months into my ownership, but I wasn't
> expecting much as it was a truck.  The TL has no problems and Acura sent
out
> a letter stating that they had had above normal problems with the 5 sp.
auto
> tranny so they extended the drive train warranty to 100,000, doubling the
> regular warranty!
> .  Anyone who had paid to fix their tranny was compensated.  I've never
seen
> any American brand own up to that kind of responsibility (cams anyone?).
> The Civic that I traded in on the truck had over 60,000 miles on it.  I
> replaced a O2 sensor on it.  I think it went ten thousand miles on one oil
> change when my wife was driving it.  Because of it's lack of power, I
> redline shifted that thing out of first 9 times outta 10.  It never
> complained.  I never worried about it starting.  Before that, I had a
Saab.
> 200,000 miles on it.  Replaced the turbo at 120 ish.  The fuel filter,
> plugs, and wires were original at 140,000 miles when I finally changed
them.
> Never worried about it starting or getting me where I needed to go.  Brake
> job all around cost 80 bucks.  It was an 87, before that I had an 86 that
I
> rolled six and a half times and walked away from.  Sadly, I'll never buy
> another Saab because it's a GM car with a GM motor now.  My brother has a
> 2002 Trailblazer.  A month af!
> ter he got it, it was in the shop for a month! with computer problems and
> the dealer couldn't fix it.  My neighbor has a Grand AM, pure POS, seats
> don't work, AC buttons break, the radio can't pick up a 100,000 watt radio
> channel ten miles from our house.  I could go on and on and on.
> As to jobs and money, those profits that all these "foreign" manufacturers
> "drain" from this county?  Not long ago, Mercedes was contemplating
building
> a 700 million dollar complex here in Jacksonville to build vans.  That
would
> have meant American jobs not only at the factory but also to build it.
Were
> are talking 700 million dollars into America by foreign investors.  It
would
> have meant 1500 jobs for Jacksonville.  And in this economy!  They got a
> better deal in Georgia, I think, but it's America!  Not Mexico or Canada
> were a lot of Big 3 products come from thanks to NAFTA and cheap labor.
> I only bought the SHO because of it's motor and because I needed a car
that
> I could afford as my fortunes have changed.  I love it.  I love the thrust
> and engine sounds.  I turn up the radio to drown out the rattles and
> squeaks, clunks and groans and wind noise coming from the sun roof.  If
this
> car was to croak would I buy another SHO?  Probably if I could find one
> decent enough, but it sure as hell wouldn't be because of the body.  As
you
> all know, it would be because of that Yamaha heart beating under the hood.
> I'm truly sorry for this rant, but the big 3 are dead if they don't fix
> themselves.  Honda Pilot's are selling for three grand over sticker here
> because everyone wants one.  Ford has nine thousand dollar rebates on some
> of its Exploders!  Steve T, look at the Acura MDX if you are looking at
the
> Pilot.  Honda says the Pilot's bigger but it isn't.  They have the same
> interior room and with the mark up's I can get an MDX for less than a
Pilot.
> The only thing the Honda has is a third seat belt on the back row but it's
> the same size otherwise.
> Let the expletives fly!
> JB
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