[Shotimes] Re: Engine Break In (WAS: Interesting...porting the intake)

[Ron Porter]

Good point.

And I'll bet the EPA test vehicle engines have been "massaged" a bit
themselves.

Ron Porter 

-----Original Message-----
From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Paul Nimz
Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2003 1:36 AM
To: 'SHOtimes'
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Re: Engine Break In (WAS: Interesting...porting the
intake)


But manufacturers don't care about mileage or performance of the car
produced.  Only on their test mules for the EPA and the lawyers
association.....

Paul Nimz
'97 TR
'93 EG mtx


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Weidenbenner" <johnjweid@earthlink.net>
To: "Ron Porter" <ronporter@prodigy.net>; "'SHOtimes'"
<shotimes@autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 6:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Re: Engine Break In (WAS: Interesting...porting the
intake)


> If improved ring sealing really does happen with this procedure then the
> auto manufactures should be able to devise an at the factory procedure
that
> will provide the same results. The improved performance, i.e. better
> compression or whatever, should also boost fuel mileage and lower
emissions.
> I can't beileve that the manufacturers would not take advantage of that!
>
> John W.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ron Porter" <ronporter@prodigy.net>
> To: "'John Weidenbenner'" <johnjweid@earthlink.net>; "'SHOtimes'"
> <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 10:45 AM
> Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Re: Engine Break In (WAS: Interesting...porting
the
> intake)
>
>
> Too many variables for owners to follow, and it encourages driving that is
> not the "norm", hence liability issues. Also, I doubt they really care
> whether someone gets the last few HP out of their engine, since most of
the
> driving population never gets beyond 1/2 throttle, anyway.
>
> Ron Porter
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
> On Behalf Of John Weidenbenner
> Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 11:04 AM
> To: SHOtimes
> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Re: Engine Break In (WAS: Interesting...porting
the
> intake)
>
>
> It's in the message below.
>
> I wonder why the auto manufactures do not recommend this simple secret to
> ring
> sealing?
>
> John W.
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: John Weidenbenner
>   To: Ron Childs ; Chris Zap ; SHOtimes
>   Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 6:45 PM
>   Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Re: Engine Break In (WAS: Interesting...porting
> the
> intake)
>
>
>   I don't understand what those photos mean? A scientific report, not an
> infomercial. Isn't he trying to sell a magazine?
>
>   John W.
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     From: Ron Childs
>     To: John Weidenbenner ; Chris Zap ; SHOtimes
>     Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 11:30 AM
>     Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Re: Engine Break In (WAS:
Interesting...porting
> the intake)
>
>
>     They presented pictures of pistons/rings that were treated equally
> except
> for the different break-in methods. What kind of proof would you be
looking
> for?
>
>     -Ron Childs
>
>
>     John Weidenbenner <johnjweid@earthlink.net> wrote:
>       The motortune guy offers no proof of his theory. I consider it only
an
>       opioion without any scientific proof. The atricle is worthless.
>
>       John W.
>
>       ----- Original Message -----
>       From: "Chris "Zap""
>
>
>       > http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm
>       >
>       > Saw this a while ago.... very interesting article on break in for
> engines
>       of
>       > all kinds!
>       >
>       > ~Chris
>       > ----- Original Message -----
>       > From: "John Weidenbenner"
>       >
>       > > What difference does that make? Looser bearings? More or less
>       > > sealing/friction of the piston rings? "Bedding" in the engine
> block
>       (like
>       > > making the brakes work "better")?
>       > >
>       > > John W.
>       > > ----- Original Message -----
>       > > From: "Paul Nimz"
>       > >
>       > > > I think it is in how the motor is broke in.
>       > > >
>       > > > Paul Nimz
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