[Shotimes] MAF connector question

[Midwest SHO Specialists]

Ron,

I think your view may have been soured by your choice of MAF setups.  I'm
not a huge fan of the 80mm/ LPM setup unless you get your car up on a dyno
after it's installed, get an Air/ Fuel chart, and then get the lpm
programmed for that.  Otherwise, for the money, you can do a lot better,
especially on an MTX where the chip isn't a huge benefit for bolt on cars.

Mike Kopstain
Midwest SHO Specialists
827 North Chestnut Avenue
Arlington Heights, IL 60004
www.MidwestSHO.com
Sales@midwestsho.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Porter" <ronporter@prodigy.net>
To: "'Dave Kegel'" <d.kegel@comcast.net>; <shotimes@autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 1:47 PM
Subject: RE: [Shotimes] MAF connector question


> Yeah, that being the case......
>
> I guess I don't think "young" enough....it's one of those pieces that
> impresses your friends!!!
>
> But, to do it again, I still wouldn't do it first.
>
> Oft-told, boring story. I had 1/2 the BOS put in. Y-pipe, catback, UDPs.
> Drove the car a month or so. Much better torque through the rpm range, and
> 30-31 mpg at 80 mph on the highway.
>
> Got the 80mm/LPM/Can. Installed them on a nice, cool night. Went out and
> drove. WTF????  "Maybe" an increase over 6K.....nothing that I could feel
> below that otherwise.
>
> Later dyno run proved the upper-end HP with a 207 at-the-wheels run at
Kenny
> Brown's (when Don McKinnon turned his 195 HP on his stock '95)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
> On Behalf Of Dave Kegel
> Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 2:32 PM
> To: shotimes@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] MAF connector question
>
>
> Ron,
>
> In the past the only options were the Pro-M 77mm for around $400 or the
Ford
> 80mm LPM combo, for about the same total price (I suppose the 73mm C&L was
> out there too).  expensive, and the results were questionable, at least
with
> the LPM deal (the PRO-M 77mm was and still is worth some HP).
>
> But these days you can get the PRO-M 75mm MAF for about $170, throw it on
> there, and are guaranteed 5 or more HP from the dyno results I've seen.
> That's a better bang for the buck than either a Y-pipe or UDPs.
>
> Dave Kegel
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ron Porter" <ronporter@prodigy.net>
> To: "'Midwest SHO Specialists'" <SHOtimes@midwestsho.com>;
> <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> Sent: August 15, 2003 1:04 PM
> Subject: RE: [Shotimes] MAF connector question
>
>
> > Well, at least we are consistent in our disagreement, Mike!!
> >
> > IMHO, the last two things to put on a bolt-on mod SHO are a bigger MAF
and
> a
> > Quaife!!
> >
> > Mike, I disagree on the MAF. For the money, any perceived increase, if
any
> > (and I'll bet a dyno will hardly show a difference) is not a worthwhile
> > first step. Greater gains in exhaust and underdrive pulleys that give a
> > "butt dyno" increase, as well as increase gas mileage. MAF upgrades on a
> > basically stock motor will show very minimal increases once you are over
> > about 6K (this was my direct personal experience on my '89).
> >
> > Ron Porter
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