[Shotimes] ATX Problem

Thu, 21 Aug 2003 02:00:33 -0400

And your 93 at BOBs has numerous VSS codes in memory

Kirk J Doucette
NESHOC President
Stormtrooper-97 White

-----Original Message-----
From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of Bruce Malachuk
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 4:12 PM
To: 'Midwest SHO Specialists'; shotimes@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: [Shotimes] ATX Problem

The VSS also might not throw any codes. My SLO started having tranny
issues (ax4s) and I got a code 647 or something outta it. Well I changed
the VSS cause that's what a few ppl said it prolly was and the shifting
got much better. But I never saw a "VSS" code. My 93 Black ATX parts car
did throw 452 and it won't shift outta first gear, and it throws a host
of other codes too for tranny things. My VAPS on my Opal Frost has acted
weird a few times and I'm wondering if the VSS is failing. Like my SLO
it hasn't thrown a code, but that might be an answer. In a perfect world
I'd do it today while the oil pan is off cause there is soo much room to
work there on it.

My VSS on the SLO also tested out fine via resistance testing on the ATX
plug on the top of the tranny. It helped when I changed it but the
damage was already done. Forward planet carrier or something is making
all sorts of noise now. But the car still runs ok on the highway as I
found out in the last few days :-) A really SLOw bat outta hell. I've
been spoiled by the HP of my wounded SHO

Bruce Malachuk

94 Opal Frost MTX
93 Black ATX soon to be parts
93 Green MTX - black interior.....soon to be mine

-----Original Message-----
From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
[mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Midwest SHO
Specialists
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 3:38 PM
To: shotimes@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] ATX Problem

The VSS will through a code 452 and cause the steering to go from really
stiff to really loose at highway speeds, since the VAPS pulls it's
signal from the VSS.  TC lockup will also be affected and cruise control
will usually not work.

Mike Kopstain
Midwest SHO Specialists
827 North Chestnut Avenue
Arlington Heights, IL 60004
www.MidwestSHO.com
Sales@midwestsho.com

>
> Try setting your cruise control at highway speeds..  If it doesnt work

> my guess is a VSS.. I had a rebuild then 2 years later the VSS started

> to go out, only when it warmed up though.. The trans did all sorts of
> weird
stuff.
>     does this happen cold to?  I believe VSS's failures dont throw
> codes correct?
>
>
> >From: "Kirk  Doucette" <Kirk.doucette@verizon.net>
> >To: "Cohiba" <cohiba@super-ford.org>,   "SHOTimes List"
> ><shotimes@autox.team.net>
> >Subject: RE: [Shotimes] ATX Problem
> >Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 00:31:30 -0400
> >
> >Time to go get you a clip ring
> >
> >Your overdrive servo is taking a dump  ((broke or missing clip, and
> >or
the
> >piston on the servo is somehow damaged)) (hopefully this is it) you
> >can
get
> >to this externally
> >Or:
> >Your direct clutch is on its way out.  Means time for a rebuild, this

> >is inaccessible unless you drop the Trans unit
> >
> >Kirk J Doucette
> >NESHOC President
> >Stormtrooper-97 White
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
> >[mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]On
> >Behalf Of Cohiba
> >Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 8:30 PM
> >To: SHOTimes List
> >Subject: [Shotimes] ATX Problem
> >
> >SHO Gurus,
> >
> >I experienced something new in my ATX today... when I take off from a
stop,
> >the car is shuddering pretty bad from about 10-15 mph.  It almost
> >felt
the
> >car
> >just didn't know what gear to stay in. This, of course, got me
> >wondering how well my rebuilt (three years ago) ATX was holding up.
> >The problem seems
to
> >be
> >intermittent, so I don't think the issue is actually with the tranny.
Then
> >something very odd happened; I was cruising on the highway (about
> >65mph) and the car suddenly downshifted, damn near putting my chest
> >into the
steering
> >wheel.
> >
> >I confirmed that this was not a freak occurance because it happened
> >about
3
> >or
> >4 more times before I got home, and then again when I just drove the
> >car. I also tried it with the overdrive off and the same shuddering
> >happened
when
> >pulling away from a stop, but no problems with downshifting at
> >highway speeds, actually the car seemed to bog at random times, like
> >it was trying to go into
> >overdrive.  Any ideas what I can check?  No codes are coming up...
What
> >sensor/device controls the gear selection for the ATX?  Could this be
a
VSS
> >failure?  Any other suggestions?
> >
> >Thanks in advance for the input.
> >
> >Cohiba
> >http://cohiba.users.superford.org/
> >92 N2O MTX
> >94 Stock ATX
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