[Shotimes] subframe bolts torque

[Mike.Wojton@us.o-i.com]

It's very low-pitched.  My response to John explains why I don't
think it's springs/struts.  It does it as I'm letting the clutch out/
pressing on the accelerator from a stop, and then each time I shift
gears.  As I get progressively into a higher gear, the sound gets
less bad.  It's a sort of rubbery/stretchy sound.  I surmised that
it was a motor mount or subframe bushing because of it.  I figured
that there was more leverage on the drivetrain in the lower gears,
and that's why it was worse in lower gears.

The motor mount WAS bad (the rubber was split), but the noise didn't
lessen a bit.

It's done it ever since I bought the car at the beginning of this
year, but it was infrequent and nowhere near as loud.


Mike Wojton
Toledo, Ohio

-'95 White MTX
   '96 Brake Upgrade

Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball.




"Bruce Malachuk" <bmalach1@nycap.rr.com> wrote on 12/11/2003 01:52:07 PM:

> Is it high pitched or low pitched groaning noise. John brings up a good
> point on the spacers and checking the thing the springs rest on at the
> perch. My SLO had a rubber insulator at the perch be completely gone, 
and it
> made horrible noise. 
> 
> 
> Bruce Malachuk
> 
> 94 Opal Frost MTX 
> 
> 93 Green MTX winter beater
> 
> 93 Black ATX stripped for spare parts
> 
> 95 Sliver Frost SE (SLO) waiting for it's AX4S SHO tranny
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net 
[mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
> On Behalf Of Mike.Wojton@us.o-i.com
> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 11:38 AM
> To: shotimes@autox.team.net
> Subject: RE: [Shotimes] subframe bolts torque
> 
> Well I haven't replaced them.  I'm trying to track down a horrid 
groaning
> noise I hear coming from the front end.  Just had a motor mount replaced 
and
> that wasn't it.  The subframe was out when the clutch was replaced this 
past
> summer and I never went back to check the torque on the bolts.
> 
> 
> Mike Wojton
> Toledo, Ohio
> 
> -'95 White MTX
>    '96 Brake Upgrade
> 
> Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> "Bruce Malachuk" <bmalach1@nycap.rr.com> wrote on 12/11/2003 11:10:09 
AM:
> 
> > No problem. Hehe but you need some AL SFB's, everyone needs AL SFB's 
> > :-)
> > 
> > Make sure that you recheck the TQ on the subframe bolts after driving
> around
> > for a week or so. I have seen instances where stock, delrin, and
> aluminum
> > bushings have the SF bolts loosen up a little after driving around. 
> > They loosen after settling into place, so about 200 miles is a good 
> > number to re-TQ the bolts. Just like lugnuts, which reminds me I gotta 

> > re-TQ my
> snow
> > rims
> > 
> > 
> > Bruce Malachuk
> > 
> > 94 Opal Frost MTX
> > 
> > 93 Green MTX winter beater
> > 
> > 93 Black ATX stripped for spare parts
> > 
> > 95 Sliver Frost SE (SLO) waiting for it's AX4S SHO tranny
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
> [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
> > On Behalf Of Mike.Wojton@us.o-i.com
> > Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 10:48 AM
> > To: shotimes@autox.team.net
> > Subject: RE: [Shotimes] subframe bolts torque
> > 
> > No, stock.  Thanks.
> > 
> > 
> > Mike Wojton
> > Toledo, Ohio
> > 
> > -'95 White MTX
> >    '96 Brake Upgrade
> > 
> > Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > "Bruce Malachuk" <bmalach1@nycap.rr.com> wrote on 12/11/2003 10:44:05
> AM:
> > 
> > > Yup. Less your doing AL SFB's then I tq them down to 100-110 ft/lb
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Bruce Malachuk
> > > 
> > > 94 Opal Frost MTX
> > > 
> > > 93 Green MTX winter beater
> > > 
> > > 93 Black ATX stripped for spare parts
> > > 
> > > 95 Sliver Frost SE (SLO) waiting for it's AX4S SHO tranny
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
> > [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
> > > On Behalf Of Mike.Wojton@us.o-i.com
> > > Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 10:16 AM
> > > To: shotimes@autox.team.net
> > > Subject: [Shotimes] subframe bolts torque
> > > 
> > > What's the torque spec for the rear subframe bolts?  My service cd 
> > > only
> > has
> > > the front, at 55-75 ft/lbs.  The same?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Mike Wojton
> > > Toledo, Ohio
> > > 
> > > -'95 White MTX
> > >    '96 Brake Upgrade
> > > 
> > > Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball.
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