[Shotimes] 80mm MAF failure, ~$price? (HELP)

[John J. Weidenbenner]

I don't recall anyone mentioning these possibilities and you may have
eliminated them already.

An over-oiled cloth air cleaner, such as a K&N. The MAFS Ni-Cr wires if
dirty may cause strange voltage outputs.

Dirty or wet air filter element.

The sensor wires cleaned with an over agressive solvent such as carb
cleaner, possibly causing internal MAFS damage.

Wiring harness/connector problem in the MAFS circuit.

Air leak between throttle body and MAFS.

Connection between the PCM and LPM.

Ambient air or coolant temperature sensors.

John W.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kirk J Doucette" <kirk.doucette@verizon.net>
To: "Kerby Haltom" <kerbyh@netzero.net>; <shotimes@autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 11:03 PM
Subject: RE: [Shotimes] 80mm MAF failure, ~$price? (HELP)


> Yup I agree. I would first remove the chip and 80mm and go back to stock
and
> see if your MPG comes back, are you throwing codes? have you checked your
> thermostat for sticking open? . If its "killing" mafs I would send the
Chip
> for a Look see to figure out what is going on.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
> [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Kerby Haltom
> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 11:04 PM
> To: shotimes@autox.team.net
> Subject: RE: [Shotimes] 80mm MAF failure, ~$price? (HELP)
>
>
> That could also be O2 sensors, which fail much more often than MAFs.
>
> Kerby
>
> At 07:57 PM 12/15/03 -0800, Johnsho92 wrote:
> >Well,
> >
> >I meant the Whole UNIT, the sensor along with the
> >80mm-diameter MAF.
> >
> >Explain a failing MAF? Hmmm, don't know what would
> >cause the MAF to Fail or it's symptoms, but I do know
> >that it's MAF related.  I beleive it's the way the LPM
> >and Computer(EEC-V) interprets the MAF-Sensor
> >readings.  I also think it's realted to the Rich side.
> >  My engine won't run HOT, or slightly cooler than
> >usual, I'm also getting 14 mpg.
> >
> >So, I'm not sure, What's a failing MAF or MAF sensor
> >but I have isolated it to the MAF general-area..
> >
> >PLEASE HELP. :)  thanks.
> >
> >-John
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >--- Kirk  Doucette <Kirk.doucette@verizon.net> wrote:
> > > Explain a failing maf?  Your not just adding a 80mm
> > > maf with the stock
> > > electronics right?
> > >
> > > Kirk J Doucette
> > > NESHOC President
> > > Stormtrooper-97 White
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
> > > [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]On
> > > Behalf Of Johnsho92
> > > Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 5:50 PM
> > > To: kerbyh@netzero.net; shotimes@autox.team.net
> > > Subject: [Shotimes] 80mm MAF failure, ~$price?
> > > (HELP)
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > It seems I have my Luck with these MAFs.  I beleive
> > > I
> > > ordered them through carparts.com for a Lincoln MARK
> > > VIII, 1996 version?  I'm not sure if I got this
> > > right,
> > > but at the previous times, everyone told me it was
> > > the
> > > right make, year and such..
> > >
> > > I have bought a total of four.  Three for each of
> > > our
> > > SHOs in our household, and one replacement one for
> > > one
> > > I had for a full year that Failed.  The one that
> > > failed was MY daily driver, and yet I think it
> > > failed
> > > on my again. :(  Reasons why I beleive it's the MAF
> > > and not the LPM or any other sensor, I swap out all
> > > the possibilities and MAFs, etc. and isolated it to
> > > my
> > > MAF.
> > >
> > > This stems back to my previous postings of a
> > > hole/surge from 3k-rpms - 4k-rpms which is lost of
> > > power, severly.
> > >
> > > I swapped MAFs and it's all great again..
> > >
> > >
> > > - How much do they cost now a days?
> > > - Where can I find one besides re-manufactured
> > > carparts.com?
> > > - What am I doing that may have killed the MAF, each
> > > lasted only ~1-year.
> > > - Anyone else have similar problems?
> > >
> > > Recently within the last three weeks, I've been
> > > getting 14 miles per-gallon with this bad MAF, not
> > > not
> > > 100% sure if it's soley the MAF or not..   I'll
> > > swithc
> > > MAFs and it's ok for now, haven't had long-term
> > > testing with my other MAFs, it's my next step..
> > >
> > >
> > > THANKS ALL, soryr for long-winded posts.
> > >
> > >
> > > -John Wong