[Shotimes] Re: Miracle beater sho on ebay
Paul L Fisher
sho@paul-fisher.com
Wed, 17 Dec 2003 15:29:32 -0600
Owners manual on the TDI says 10K changes.
Owners manual on SHO says 7,500 changes.
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Paul L Fisher
'93 Ford Taurus SHO Crimson Clearcoat ATX 180K Build date 11/18/1992
- K&N Panel filter, Tokico Struts, Eibach Springs, Dynomax cat-back, Holley
190lph fuel pump, FPS rebuilt ATX, 26mm rear sway bar, Performance-Plus
Stainless Steel Y-pipe, Delrin sub-frame bushings, Amsoil Series 2000 0W-30
oil, Amsoil Synthetic ATF.
SHO Club member http://www.shoclub.com/
Check out my web site http://www.paul-fisher.com/
Amsoil dealer http://www.paul-fisher.com/oil.htm
Quoting Rick Glass <rick@pitroadproducts.com>:
> You run 4k on your SHO without changing the oil ? and 6k on the new TDI ?
> There are people here who change the brake fluid more frequently than you
> do
> your oil.
> Again, I'm confused, why would you abuse them like this?
>
> Rick Glass
> Nashville, TN
> ' 99 Silver 38k non-Kirked (for now)
> Flowmaster Original 40's
> 3rd cat/resonator removed
> Intake slighly modified (but not Porterized)
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul L Fisher" <sho@paul-fisher.com>
> To: "Donald Mallinson" <dmall@mwonline.net>
> Cc: "SHOtimes" <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 4:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Re: Miracle beater sho on ebay
>
>
> > Exactly! I ahve a '96 Saturn SL2 with 145,000 miles on it that burns a
> quart
> > of oil every 300 miles. It has doen so since approximately 75,000 miles
> or
> so.
> > I have receipts from oil changes by the Saturn dealer every 3,000 miles.
> When
> > I got it with 40,000 miles, it burned a quart every 1,000 miles or so and
> has
> > progressively otten worse.
> >
> > My SHO, however, uses a quart every 4,000 miles. It has 180,000 miles on
> it.
> > My new TDI used 1/2 a quart in 6,000 miles so far.
> >
> > --
> >
> > Paul L Fisher
> > '93 Ford Taurus SHO Crimson Clearcoat ATX 180K Build date 11/18/1992
> > - K&N Panel filter, Tokico Struts, Eibach Springs, Dynomax cat-back,
> Holley
> > 190lph fuel pump, FPS rebuilt ATX, 26mm rear sway bar, Performance-Plus
> > Stainless Steel Y-pipe, Delrin sub-frame bushings, Amsoil Series 2000
> 0W-30
> > oil, Amsoil Synthetic ATF.
> >
> > SHO Club member http://www.shoclub.com/
> > Check out my web site http://www.paul-fisher.com/
> > Amsoil dealer http://www.paul-fisher.com/oil.htm
> >
> >
> >
> > Quoting Donald Mallinson <dmall@mwonline.net>:
> >
> > > Alan,
> > >
> > > Yep, I agree with that, and said so at the first. Never
> > > said that oil changes were a guarantee, but part of a plan.
> > >
> > > But regular oil changes are a better thing than leaving in
> > > dirty oil(properly filtered synthetic is another thing and
> > > NOT a bad thing) which, as I said, HAS to increase wear on
> > > all lubricated parts. No way it can't. Synthetic also
> > > isn't a cure-all for this type of failure. But it also
> > > doesn't contribute to it, and can help reduce wear overall.
> > >
> > > I have seen SHOs, something like yours, that are pretty well
> > > cared for that used HUGE amounts of oil early in their life.
> > >
> > > Again, I think luck of the draw on parts may be the best
> > > explanation.
> > >
> > > Don Mallinson
> > >
> > > Alan Fanning wrote:
> > >
> > > > I think what Ron was saying is that regular oil changes are no
> guarantee
> > > of
> > > > not having high oil consumption. I have a '90 SHO with ~165k on it.
> > > Bought
> > > > it from the original owner who used synthetic and changed the oil
> > > regularly
> > > > since new. It sat for months when he was working away from home at
> times,
> > > > but was otherwise pretty well cared for by an enthusiast owner. It
> > > started
> > > > using oil badly at ~45k, IIRC, and gets maybe 600 miles a quart now
> (with
> > > > the high mileage oil). Clean as a whistle inside though.
> > > >
> > > > Alan
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>Dirty oil can't help but speed up wear/tear, that is a
> > > >>given. Why valve seals/guides go bad is about as hard to
> > > >>track down as why some cam lobes go flat and others don't.
> > > >>Just the luck of the draw on part quality is the best guess
> > > >>at this point.
> > > >>
> > > >>Don Mallinson
> > > >
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