[Shotimes] OT-94 Sable 3.8l head gasket replacement

[Gerald Harmon]

>Glad you don't work on my cars.

Well since I'm such the dumbass why don't you tell us how to do it
correctly.  I was going by the Haynes manual (not the best I know) so I lay
blame on them if I didn't do it right.  How do you do the correct torque
sequence.  BTW it was my first 3.8 job.   As you've stated you were doing 4
a week.  I can handle working of my cars just fine and I wouldn't care to
work on yours.  I was doing my sister a favor.  It is still running just
fine also.

If you detect some sarcasm you'd be correct. I didn't care for your little
berating little remark thank you very much.   Someone asked a question I
tried to help best I could.

Gerald



>
>I used to do 4 of these a week minimum when they were recalled by ford...
>Ford lost a lot of money on this one, and as a result the techs were
shorted
>on W time.  The fastest I could do a complete head gasket swap was 4.78
and
>I still have the time card to prove it.
>
>
>From: "Gerald Harmon" <gharmon@knology.net>
>To: "John Phillis" <jphillis68@hotmail.com>, <hamssho@nexicom.net>,
><shotimes@autox.team.net>
>Subject: Re: [Shotimes] OT-94 Sable 3.8l head gasket replacement
>Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 23:15:44 -0500
>
> >I think it is torque to 35, 55, 75, then loosen bolts one at a time, and
> >then retorque to 75(65) can't remember offhand, and then an additional 90
> >degrees.  well, add 90, so make it 180 degrees.... and that shodl fix
> >that...
>
>No, after you loosen them is when you use go an additional 90 degrees.  If
>you retighten them to 75 then you will never go another 180 degrees.  I was
>fuzzy on these instructions to begin with and tried that and I'm here to
>tell you I was very luck I didn't break the head bolt off in the block.  I
>garuntee I was approaching 200ft-lbs when I just could not make myself go
>any further because I knew they were fixin to break.
>
> >you HAVE to buy new headbolts if they don't come with the headset. you
>HAVE
> >to.
>
>True.
>
>  I don't care what anyone says, ABSOLUTELY.
> >why? because headbolts stretch out, hence the loosening retorquing thing.
> >see, what you do, is you loosen the headbolts after straining them some,
> >then, you go to town on tehm, and they are less likely to stretch out and
> >not hold the torque.
> >
> >we put a torque wrench on one jus tfor fun one time,a dnwe dialed it up
to
> >meet the final torque spec.  you tighten it to 65(75) then 180 degrees
>past
> >that...  it came out to well over 145 ft/lbs, which was the limit of the
> >torque wrench.
> >
>That is too much torque for those cheesy 11mm bolts.
>
>Gerald
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