[Shotimes] SHO is down... hope i didn't f' it up too bad...

James White greensho@crown.net
Wed, 8 Jan 2003 19:31:50 -0600


should we start another "real men" thread on this...?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ian Fisher" <ianf@eden.rutgers.edu>
To: "'Bill Murray'" <fordsho@cloud9grafx.com>; "'SHOTimes'"
<shotimes@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 6:44 PM
Subject: RE: [Shotimes] SHO is down... hope i didn't f' it up too bad...


> Weakling
>
> :P
>
> Ian "I'll be using your help to replace halfshafts this weekend and set
> a date for the fuel pump" Fisher
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
> [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bill Murray
> Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 7:33 PM
> To: SHOTimes
> Subject: RE: [Shotimes] SHO is down... hope i didn't f' it up too bad...
>
>
> They are easy, as long as you can get the top bolt threaded the first
> time you try.  After that your arm starts to get tired from holding the
> starter up and your neck starts to hurt from holding your head at a
> weird angle.
>
> Bill "I hate changing starters when its 28 degrees outside, twice."
> Murray
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
> [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jim and Debbie
> Leyden
> Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 7:25 PM
> To: shotimes@autox.team.net; Floyd E. Vasquez
> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] SHO is down... hope i didn't f' it up too bad...
>
> Floyd,
> Replacing the starter is a total breeze.  I have found that nine times
> out of ten, when a starter fails it is the brushes that are the problem.
> You can purchase a set of brushes and brush holder for your SHO from
> NAPA. IIRC they are about ~$30 for the brush ring and brushes and they
> are simple to install.
>
> Jim
> '93 MTX
> working on my third brush set
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Floyd E. Vasquez" <fvasquez@vbnmedia.com>
> To: "SHOtimes" <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 6:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] SHO is down... hope i didn't f' it up too bad...
>
>
> > Dave, Steve, Ron and Randy:
> >
> > THANKS for your posts.   Ground wire was connected.  Negative battery
> cable
> > looks okay.  Strangely enough, I was able to start it today with a
> jump..
> > pulled it into the garage and onto some ramps.  Looks like the
> antifreeze
> > leak has been plugged, but I'm spilling oil from somewhere (i'm
> guessing
> > rear valve cover gaskets must not have set properly (the weekend is
> shot
> > again).  Anyway I took the battery back to Sears and asked them to
> test it
> > under load.  Battery is good.  So, it looks like you guys are right -
> > starter is the prime suspect.  I'll check SHOforum for feedback on
> starter
> > installation... anyone know if its easy? ("easy" being incredibly
> relative
> i
> > know)  (smile)
> >
> > Floyd
> > NMSHO
> > White 92
> > http://nmshoclub.com/
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Dave Kegel" <d.kegel@attbi.com>
> > To: "Floyd E. Vasquez" <fvasquez@vbnmedia.com>;
> <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 11:14 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Shotimes] SHO is down... hope i didn't f' it up too
> bad...
> >
> >
> > > Sounds like you need a starter, assuming of course that the battery
> is
> > > really good.  Make sure and have it load tested.  If it passes, it's
> the
> > > starter.  I guess it would make sense to make sure the cables are
> tight
> > and
> > > clean as well.
> > >
> > > Dave Kegel
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Floyd E. Vasquez" <fvasquez@vbnmedia.com>
> > > To: <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> > > Sent: January 07, 2003 11:03 PM
> > > Subject: [Shotimes] SHO is down... hope i didn't f' it up too bad...
> > >
> > >
> > > > warning: long post outlining circumstances that left my SHO
> temporarily
> > > > inoperable.  any feedback will be much appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > Saturday morning I decided I'd finally replace the plug wires on
> my 92
> > > SHO;
> > > > figured I'd put some new intake gaskets on too, clean up the
> intake
> > ports,
> > > > replace the plugs, etc. too.  Used the MN SHOnut 60K tape to guide
> me
> > > through
> > > > the process.
> > > >
> > > > By Sunday night, it was ready to try and start.  The battery had
> been
> up
> > > on a
> > > > metal shelf.  When I put it back in the car there was not enough
> power
> > to
> > > turn
> > > > the car over.   Tried jumping it with my wife's car, no luck.  Put
> her
> > > battery
> > > > in the SHO and it started.. wouldn't idle though, and it was
> spewing
> > > > antifreeze.  Shut if off and called it a night.
> > > >
> > > > With fresh eyes on Monday, I realized that I had missed one of the
> > coolant
> > > > hoses coming off the throttle body and another was a little loose.
> > Fixed.
> > > > Noticed that I had failed to connect a connector on the right hand
> side
> > of
> > > the
> > > > intake manifold, connected.  I had my battery charged during the
> day,
> > but
> > > > still, it wouldn't turn over.  Lights in the car worked, etc., but
> not
> > > enough
> > > > juice to turn it over.  SO, I hooked up jumper cables to my wife's
> car
> > > again
> > > > and this time the SHO roared to life.   It immediatley achieved a
> stable
> > > idle.
> > > > I let it idle for a few minutes and inspected for coolant leaks -
> all
> > > clear,
> > > > and when I revved it, sounded better than ever.
> > > >
> > > > So, I took it for a test ride.  Felt great, very stable.  I
> started
> real
> > > > slow.. after a block or so there seemed to be some type of
> electrical
> > > event -
> > > > a momentary pause, a yellow warning light flashed on the dash, but
> the
> > car
> > > > continued without a hitch.  It was night and my headlights were
> normal,
> > > > signals worked, and it felt amazing.  I drove 1 to 2 miles; near
> the
> end
> > > of
> > > > the ride I got into it a little and it was running great -smooth
> as
> silk
> > > from
> > > > idle to 6000 rpm...
> > > >
> > > > Came back home and parked in drive way, idle stable as can be,
> normal
> > > temp, no
> > > > warning lights.. noticed LOTs of white smoke coming from under the
> hood.
> > > I
> > > > shut off the car and opened the hood, lots of white smoke.. didn't
> > > recognize
> > > > the smell.  I had cleaned up with the intake manifold with intake
> > cleaner
> > > and
> > > > there was probably still some coolant hanging around the block -
> so it
> > may
> > > > have been that stuff burning off.  I decided to put it in the
> garage
> and
> > > > finish the troubleshooting the today, but there was not enough
> power
> to
> > > turn
> > > > over the engine.  This time a jump wouldn't do it, so I just left
> it
> in
> > > the
> > > > driveway.
> > > >
> > > > Today I had the battery checked, its fine.  I put it back in the
> car,
> > > interior
> > > > lights are bright, key chime dinging, etc.  Turn the key and its
> like
> > all
> > > the
> > > > power is sucked out of the system.  won't turn over.  Ran the
> codes
> and
> > > got
> > > > 114 and 116 (ACT and ECT out of self-test range).  I ran the test
> > twice -
> > > 1st
> > > > time the fan was real weak; 2nd time the fan roared to life and
> the
> > > interior
> > > > lights were bright again.  Turn the key to start it up, and it
> shuts
> > right
> > > > down.. no turnover.. lights go way dim..  checked the fuses.. all
> are
> > > fine.
> > > >
> > > > And so she sits out in the driveway...  anyone experience
> something
> > > similar?
> > > >
> > > > Floyd
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