[Shotimes] ATX OD
Kirk Doucette
Kirk.doucette@verizon.net
Sun, 12 Jan 2003 12:53:08 -0500
What I would do with a worn out older ATX would be to use the OD button
under 40mph. Sure the computer controls things but the hydraulics wear out
and don't do what they are supposed to when they get worn which the PCM
cannot compensate for. On a fresh one the PCM can do its job.
Again this is what I would do it that scenario.
Kirk J Doucette
NESHOC President
Stormtrooper-97 White
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Tatro [mailto:stevetatro_shotimes@att.net]
Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 9:56 AM
To: Kirk Doucette; shotimes@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] ATX OD
I know you didn't give advice. I was looking for you to advise! Just
wanted to hear your opinion.
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kirk Doucette" <Kirk.doucette@verizon.net>
To: "Steve Tatro" <stevetatro@att.net>; "Paul Nimz" <niks@dlogue.net>;
<shotimes@autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 10:01 PM
Subject: RE: [Shotimes] ATX OD
> I don't think I gave any advice there, just a fact of what mine did.
There
> is a bit of a difference between a stated fact and suggested advice.
>
> Kirk J Doucette
> NESHOC President
> Stormtrooper-97 White
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
[mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]On
> Behalf Of Steve Tatro
> Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 9:55 AM
> To: Kirk Doucette; Paul Nimz; shotimes@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] ATX OD
>
> So, Kirk, would you advise those who have to puts around city streets
going
> 30-40mph to use their OD button and keep the car from lugging, extraneous
> 3-4-3 shifting, and just in general keep the RPMs up a tad (we're only
> talking 1800-2000rpms in 3rd gear) ?
>
> Thanks for your input.
>
> Steve
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kirk Doucette" <Kirk.doucette@verizon.net>
> To: "Steve Tatro" <stevetatro@att.net>; "Paul Nimz" <niks@dlogue.net>;
> <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 9:07 PM
> Subject: RE: [Shotimes] ATX OD
>
>
> > A worn out ATX car will lug just as much as a MTX. My 93 from years ago
> > would stay in 4th with converter locked at 33mph . Not saying all do but
> > they can be luged just as much.
> >
> > Correlation of Paul's (all AX4N ) has nothing to do at all with this..
and
> a
> > FPS AX4N is nothing more that a stock rebuild with a 18$ transgo kit..
its
> > not like the 4s or axode trannys, it's a much different animal.
> >
> > Kirk J Doucette
> > NESHOC President
> > Stormtrooper-97 White
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
> [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]On
> > Behalf Of Steve Tatro
> > Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 8:26 PM
> > To: Paul Nimz; shotimes@autox.team.net
> > Subject: Re: [Shotimes] ATX OD
> >
> > Yes, and you also wore out an FPS rebuilt tranny, right? ;^)
> >
> > Not trying to make a correlation, but...
> >
> > I also like the OD button. I hate when I'm stuck going 35mph and my
> tranny
> > is lugging around at 1400rpms in 4th gear. This has to be good for the
> > engine, as it's commonly thought that lugging (easy to do in the MTX if
> > you're not careful) causes the rod bearing wear, as there's little oil
> > pressure at those low rpms. Also, this would hypothetically save a lot
of
> > 3-4 and 4-3 shifts, so it should be good for the tranny.
> >
> > I just don't know.
> >
> > Steve
> > Red/Black '93 with 163k miles
> > Cincinnati, Ohio
> > www.picturetrail.com/stevetatro
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Paul Nimz" <niks@dlogue.net>
> > To: <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 8:09 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Shotimes] ATX OD
> >
> >
> > > Yes but isn't it a good idea to keep the rpms up for oiling reasons?
> > > Personally I love using the OD button, in town on the highway... I've
> > damn
> > > near wore it out on my '97. Get a FordChip to relive yourself of the
TC
> > > lock/unlock doldrums.
> > >
> > > Paul Nimz
> > > '97 TR SHO
> > > '93 EG mtx SHO
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Dave Kegel" <d.kegel@attbi.com>
> > > To: "Midwest SHO Specialists SHOtimes"
> > <MidwestSHOspecialists@hotmail.com>;
> > > <ribble@mindspring.com>; <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> > > Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 3:27 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Shotimes] ATX OD
> > >
> > >
> > > > I disagree. The torque converter will lock and unlock whether
you've
> > got
> > > it
> > > > in 4th gear (overdrive) or 3rd (drive), so it does not do any good
to
> > keep
> > > > it in third. You're just wasting gas.
> > > >
> > > > Dave Kegel
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Midwest SHO Specialists SHOtimes"
> > > <MidwestSHOspecialists@hotmail.com>
> > > > To: <ribble@mindspring.com>; <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> > > > Sent: January 10, 2003 3:08 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [Shotimes] ATX OD
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > It is indeed better for the transmission to keep it out of
overdrive
> > > under
> > > > > stop and go situations. In city driving, the tc has to lock and
> > un-lock
> > > a
> > > > > fair amount and at those speeds (typically around 40mph) there is
> > little
> > > > > benefit from the OD gear anyhow. So it saves wear and tear.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike Kopstain
> > > > > Midwest SHO Specialists
> > > > > 827 North Chestnut Avenue
> > > > > Arlington Heights, IL 60004
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