[Shotimes] CONTROL ARMS (please read) write-up
Kirk Doucette
Kirk.doucette@verizon.net
Fri, 17 Jan 2003 00:27:36 -0500
Only on your VERY early built 97, there is not a bracket made for it but you
could and would have too. If you have one sensor unplugged the entire system
goes into (STIFF) mode.
Regular 97's the sensor was dropped, and some 96's had dual sensors..
Pauls group buy was aimed at the Gen1 and Gen 2, some gen3's need mods that
he is not aware of.. Not his fault though he's tiring real hard to make up
for his cam bearing fiasco.
Kirk J Doucette
NESHOC President
Stormtrooper-97 White
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Conklin [mailto:Conklinmowerandengine@cox.net]
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 12:16 AM
To: Paul L Fisher; Ian Fisher; 'V8SHO'; TechSHO@topica.com; 'SHOtimes
(Team.net)'
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] CONTROL ARMS (please read) write-up
When upgrading to aftermarket rear control arms, there is what looks like a
ride height valve mounted to the driver side rear control arm---is there a
special way to mount it & get proper adjustment?
Mike Conklin
97 white
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul L Fisher" <sho@paul-fisher.com>
To: "Ian Fisher" <ianf@eden.rutgers.edu>; "'V8SHO'" <v8sho@v8sho.com>;
<TechSHO@topica.com>; "'SHOtimes (Team.net)'" <shotimes@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 1:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] CONTROL ARMS (please read) write-up
> OK. After all this, I'm just going to order the OEM GM ones and the SHO
NUT
> kit. Who ever was bitching at you last week about not using a SHO vendor
> needs to get a clue. There is no reason I can see to spend an extra $200
for
> the TCE or BMR ones.
>
> I'll leave the group buy open and if I get 5 people willing to spend that
> much, so be it.
>
> I already have more than 5 of the knuckle braces so that is a done deal.
>
> Paul L Fisher
> '93 Ford Taurus SHO Crimson Clearcoat ATX 170K Build date 11/18/1992
> - K&N Panel filter, Tokico Struts, Eibach Springs, Dynomax cat-back,
Holley
> 190lph fuel pump, FPS rebuilt ATX, 26mm rear sway bar, Performance-Plus
> Stainless Steel Y-pipe, Delrin sub-frame bushings, Amsoil Series 2000
0W-30
> oil, Amsoil Synthetic ATF.
> '00 Ford Explorer XLT 5.0L V8 AWD Oxford White Clearcoat 34K Build date
> 11/19/1999
> - Amsoil Series 2000 0W-30 oil, K&N Fuel Injection Performance Kit
>
> SHO Club member http://www.shoclub.com/
> Check out my web site http://www.paul-fisher.com/
> Amsoil dealer http://www.paul-fisher.com/oil.htm
>
> Get $5 free from Paypal! https://www.paypal.com/refer/pal=P3XEFFBFUFKN6
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ian Fisher" <ianf@eden.rutgers.edu>
> To: "'Paul L Fisher'" <sho@paul-fisher.com>; "'V8SHO'" <v8sho@v8sho.com>;
> <TechSHO@topica.com>; "'SHOtimes (Team.net)'" <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 15:37
> Subject: RE: [Shotimes] CONTROL ARMS (please read) write-up
>
>
> >
> > Well, the front ones on a stock W body (GTP, regal) car are the
> > adjustable ones. The rearward ones are not. BMR fabricates an adjustable
> > rear one as an upgrade. I actually am assuming that we want 4 adjustable
> > forward ones, but I am not sure where this would place the zerk fitting.
> > I'll have to find out more when I talk to BMR again on Monday.
> >
> > Ian
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Paul L Fisher [mailto:sho@paul-fisher.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 4:32 PM
> > To: Ian Fisher; 'V8SHO'; TechSHO@topica.com; 'SHOtimes (Team.net)'
> > Subject: Re: [Shotimes] CONTROL ARMS (please read) write-up
> >
> >
> > OK. The other thing I'm a little confused on is the 'lateral arms
> > forward mount' and the 'lateral arm rear mount'. They look the same to
> > me on BMR's site other than the grease nipples face the other way.
> >
> > Paul L Fisher
> > '93 Ford Taurus SHO Crimson Clearcoat ATX 170K Build date 11/18/1992
> > - K&N Panel filter, Tokico Struts, Eibach Springs, Dynomax cat-back,
> > Holley 190lph fuel pump, FPS rebuilt ATX, 26mm rear sway bar,
> > Performance-Plus Stainless Steel Y-pipe, Delrin sub-frame bushings,
> > Amsoil Series 2000 0W-30 oil, Amsoil Synthetic ATF. '00 Ford Explorer
> > XLT 5.0L V8 AWD Oxford White Clearcoat 34K Build date 11/19/1999
> > - Amsoil Series 2000 0W-30 oil, K&N Fuel Injection Performance Kit
> >
> > SHO Club member http://www.shoclub.com/
> > Check out my web site http://www.paul-fisher.com/
> > Amsoil dealer http://www.paul-fisher.com/oil.htm
> >
> > Get $5 free from Paypal! https://www.paypal.com/refer/pal=P3XEFFBFUFKN6
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ian Fisher" <ianf@eden.rutgers.edu>
> > To: "'Paul L Fisher'" <sho@paul-fisher.com>; "'V8SHO'"
> > <v8sho@v8sho.com>; <TechSHO@topica.com>; "'SHOtimes (Team.net)'"
> > <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 15:23
> > Subject: RE: [Shotimes] CONTROL ARMS (please read) write-up
> >
> >
> > > You aren't missing anything. This could very well be a case of people
> > > seeing something better and just wanting it. I feel that the GM arms
> > > are perfectly fine; the BMR's are just a bit more heavy duty. It's
> > > really just a matter of choice.
> > >
> > > I didn't include the bit about the proportioning plugs because I
> > > didn't know if the TCE arms included them or not. I just looked on
> > > Josh's site and can't find them now. Josh? I already have my own set
> > > anyway ;)
> > >
> > > Re: GM arms; I believe that the SHOshop was selling the same arms and
> > > calling them their own for some time now.
> > >
> > > I guess it's a matter of preference. The GM arms are still decent
> > > pieces.
> > >
> > > Ian
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Paul L Fisher [mailto:sho@paul-fisher.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 4:15 PM
> > > To: Ian Fisher; 'V8SHO'; TechSHO@topica.com; 'SHOtimes (Team.net)'
> > > Subject: Re: [Shotimes] CONTROL ARMS (please read) write-up
> > >
> > >
> > > Ian,
> > >
> > > I see your point. I think the OEM GTP ones are pretty nice as well. I
> > > had never seen a real picture of them. Since they are $164 for a set
> > > of 4 + $45 for the www.shonutperformance.com kit, I can't see where
> > > people would really want to spend the extra $190 for the TCE pieces.
> > >
> > > Am I missing something? For some reason, I thought the OEMGTP ones
> > > were wimpy like the OEM Ford ones but with adjusters.
> > >
> > > Paul L Fisher
> > > '93 Ford Taurus SHO Crimson Clearcoat ATX 170K Build date 11/18/1992
> > > - K&N Panel filter, Tokico Struts, Eibach Springs, Dynomax cat-back,
> > > Holley 190lph fuel pump, FPS rebuilt ATX, 26mm rear sway bar,
> > > Performance-Plus Stainless Steel Y-pipe, Delrin sub-frame bushings,
> > > Amsoil Series 2000 0W-30 oil, Amsoil Synthetic ATF. '00 Ford Explorer
> > > XLT 5.0L V8 AWD Oxford White Clearcoat 34K Build date 11/19/1999
> > > - Amsoil Series 2000 0W-30 oil, K&N Fuel Injection Performance Kit
> > >
> > > SHO Club member http://www.shoclub.com/
> > > Check out my web site http://www.paul-fisher.com/
> > > Amsoil dealer http://www.paul-fisher.com/oil.htm
> > >
> > > Get $5 free from Paypal!
> > > https://www.paypal.com/refer/pal=P3XEFFBFUFKN6
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Ian Fisher" <ianf@eden.rutgers.edu>
> > > To: "'V8SHO'" <v8sho@v8sho.com>; <TechSHO@topica.com>; "'SHOtimes
> > > (Team.net)'" <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 14:47
> > > Subject: [Shotimes] CONTROL ARMS (please read) write-up
> > >
> > >
> > > > Please note that I Bcc'ed two people on this:
> > > >
> > > > Once again, I apologize for the cross post.
> > > >
> > > > http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~ianf/arms.html
> > > >
> > > > Comments, suggestions, are welcome.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Ian
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