[Shotimes] Buzzing/grinding on startup
Urbain, Michael H.
michael.urbain@baesystems.com
Tue, 21 Jan 2003 10:24:14 -0500
Could it be the clutch? I had a bit of that grinding sound before mine
failed
Michael Urbain
'92 Black
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Today's Topics:
1. RE: Join me in my loss... (Mark D. Mallory)
2. RE: Join me in my loss... (Steve Tatro)
3. Buzzing/grinding on startup (Erik Balser)
4. RE: Join me in my los (Michael S Wojton)
5. Re: Join me in my loss... (Rbade12@aol.com)
6. CD changer not as loud as factory? (Kevin M. Bisch)
7. RE: Join me in my los (Michael S Wojton)
8. RE: Join me in my los (Steve Tatro)
9. RE: Join me in my los (Michael S Wojton)
10. Re: Buzzing/grinding on startup (Ron Childs)
11. Re: Oscillating noise on engine braking (Justin Schick)
12. Re: (OT) Super Bowl (Scott Sweeney)
13. Re: (OT) Super Bowl (Ron Nottingham)
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Message: 1
From: "Mark D. Mallory" <mmallory78@earthlink.net>
To: "Michael S Wojton" <Mike.Wojton@owens-ill.com>,
<shotimes@autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Join me in my loss...
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 15:21:19 -0500
WOW! That really sucks... and I thought it was bad when someone tried to
break into my car a few years ago. Hope the replacements work out well.
Keep us posted.
Mark Mallory
Toledo, Ohio
'95 SHO MTX
> -----Original Message-----
> From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
> [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Michael S Wojton
> Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 10:54 AM
> To: shotimes@autox.team.net
> Subject: [Shotimes] Join me in my loss...
>
>
> My car was hit out in front of my house early this morning. It is
> most likely totalled. The assailant fled the scene, but not without
> leaving behind a crucial bit of evidence: namely his front license
> plate.
>
> Needless to say, I am quite bummed. But I already have some leads on
> some possible replacements. Wish me luck.
>
> ps. At least I can return all the front end components I just
> purchased and don't have to look forward to a rebuild in the cold. :
> )
>
>
> Mike Wojton
> '95 MTX (most likely deceased)
> Toledo, Ohio
> shomike@tri-statesho-svt.org
>
> K&N sans silencer cone
> SHO Shop Y-pipe
>
> "Avoid the clap." - Jimmy Dugan
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Message: 2
Reply-To: <stevetatro@att.net>
From: "Steve Tatro" <stevetatro_shotimes@att.net>
To: "'Mark D. Mallory'" <mmallory78@earthlink.net>, "'Michael S Wojton'"
<Mike.Wojton@owens-ill.com>, <shotimes@autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Join me in my loss...
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 15:33:28 -0500
Wonder if I could talk Mike into buying a beautiful red '93 ATX that was
recently "serviced" by Mark Mallory?
I'm *sure* his insurance payout would cover the cost required to get him
into this beauty ;^)
Later, and sorry for your loss Mike.
Steve Tatro
Red/Black '93 with 164k miles
Cincinnati, Ohio
-----Original Message-----
From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Mark D. Mallory
Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 3:21 PM
To: Michael S Wojton; shotimes@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Join me in my loss...
WOW! That really sucks... and I thought it was bad when someone tried to
break into my car a few years ago. Hope the replacements work out well.
Keep us posted.
Mark Mallory
Toledo, Ohio
'95 SHO MTX
> -----Original Message-----
> From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
> [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Michael S Wojton
> Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 10:54 AM
> To: shotimes@autox.team.net
> Subject: [Shotimes] Join me in my loss...
>
>
> My car was hit out in front of my house early this morning. It is
> most likely totalled. The assailant fled the scene, but not without
> leaving behind a crucial bit of evidence: namely his front license
> plate.
>
> Needless to say, I am quite bummed. But I already have some leads on
> some possible replacements. Wish me luck.
>
> ps. At least I can return all the front end components I just
> purchased and don't have to look forward to a rebuild in the cold. :
> )
>
>
> Mike Wojton
> '95 MTX (most likely deceased)
> Toledo, Ohio
> shomike@tri-statesho-svt.org
>
> K&N sans silencer cone
> SHO Shop Y-pipe
>
> "Avoid the clap." - Jimmy Dugan
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Message: 3
From: "Erik Balser" <masho95@charter.net>
To: <shotimes@autox.team.net>
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 15:45:21 -0500
Subject: [Shotimes] Buzzing/grinding on startup
Just curious if anyone else has this problem? When it's really cold outside
(20 degrees or lower) and my car is just being started there's a
grinding/buzzing noise coming from the middle of the front of the car. Kinda
sounds like starting the car when it's already started. Sounds like maybe
the starter isn't disengaging quick enough on startup? This sound possible?
BTW the starter is new as of 8/18/02 and this happened the winter before I
replaced the starter. Thanks
'95 MTX
masho95
http://webpages.charter.net/masho95
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 15:50:00 -0500
From: "Michael S Wojton" <Mike.Wojton@owens-ill.com>
Cc: shotimes@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Join me in my los
If Mallory had a hand in it, I should probably avoid it. ; )
I should be nice. He'll probably end up helping me with any work I may have
to do on another car. Sorry Mark!
Mike Wojton
'95 MTX
Toledo, Ohio
shomike@tri-statesho-svt.org
K&N sans silencer cone
SHO Shop Y-pipe
"Avoid the clap." - Jimmy Dugan
------------------( Forwarded letter 1 follows )---------------------
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 15:33:28 -0500
To: Mike.Wojton, Mark.D.Mallory[mmallory78]@earthlink.net,
shotimes@autox.team.net
From: Steve.Tatro[stevetatro_shotimes]@att.net
Reply-To: stevetatro@att.net
Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Join me in my loss...
Wonder if I could talk Mike into buying a beautiful red '93 ATX that was
recently "serviced" by Mark Mallory?
I'm *sure* his insurance payout would cover the cost required to get him
into this beauty ;^)
Later, and sorry for your loss Mike.
Steve Tatro
Red/Black '93 with 164k miles
Cincinnati, Ohio
-----Original Message-----
From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Mark D. Mallory
Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 3:21 PM
To: Michael S Wojton; shotimes@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Join me in my loss...
WOW! That really sucks... and I thought it was bad when someone tried to
break into my car a few years ago. Hope the replacements work out well.
Keep us posted.
Mark Mallory
Toledo, Ohio
'95 SHO MTX
> -----Original Message-----
> From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
> [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Michael S Wojton
> Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 10:54 AM
> To: shotimes@autox.team.net
> Subject: [Shotimes] Join me in my loss...
>
>
> My car was hit out in front of my house early this morning. It is
> most likely totalled. The assailant fled the scene, but not without
> leaving behind a crucial bit of evidence: namely his front license
> plate.
>
> Needless to say, I am quite bummed. But I already have some leads on
> some possible replacements. Wish me luck.
>
> ps. At least I can return all the front end components I just
> purchased and don't have to look forward to a rebuild in the cold. :
> )
>
>
> Mike Wojton
> '95 MTX (most likely deceased)
> Toledo, Ohio
> shomike@tri-statesho-svt.org
>
> K&N sans silencer cone
> SHO Shop Y-pipe
>
> "Avoid the clap." - Jimmy Dugan
> _______________________________________________
> Shotimes mailing list
> Shotimes@autox.team.net http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo/shotimes
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Message: 5
From: Rbade12@aol.com
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 15:58:47 EST
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Join me in my loss...
To: Mike.Wojton@owens-ill.com, shotimes@autox.team.net
In a message dated 1/20/2003 9:55:16 AM Central Standard Time,
Mike.Wojton@owens-ill.com writes:
> Needless to say, I am quite bummed. But I already have some leads on
> some possible replacements. Wish me luck.
>
Want me to call my friend Bruno and have him return the gentleman's plate.
Since it obviously doesn't stay on his car, he could help him find a
suitable
location for it.
It's a shame you lost your car, best of luck finding a replacement!!! Bob
93 MTX
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 16:28:58 -0500
To: shotimes@autox.team.net
From: "Kevin M. Bisch" <kevin624@bellatlantic.net>
Subject: [Shotimes] CD changer not as loud as factory?
Hey folks,
I installed a Kenwood CD changer in the SHO, but it doesn't seem to come
across as loud as the factory one is. Does anybody know of a way to kick up
an FM modulated CD changer level a bit? I set the modulation level as high
as it will go, but it didn't seem to help much.
Thanks,
--Kevin
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 16:40:00 -0500
From: "Michael S Wojton" <Mike.Wojton@owens-ill.com>
Cc: shotimes@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Join me in my los
Does that mean it's cheap?
Mike Wojton
'95 MTX
Toledo, Ohio
shomike@tri-statesho-svt.org
K&N sans silencer cone
SHO Shop Y-pipe
"Avoid the clap." - Jimmy Dugan
------------------( Forwarded letter 1 follows )---------------------
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 15:33:28 -0500
To: mike.wojton, Mark.D.Mallory[mmallory78]@earthlink.net,
shotimes@autox.team.net
From: Steve.Tatro[stevetatro_shotimes]@att.net
Sender: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
Reply-To: stevetatro@att.net
Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Join me in my loss...
Wonder if I could talk Mike into buying a beautiful red '93 ATX that was
recently "serviced" by Mark Mallory?
I'm *sure* his insurance payout would cover the cost required to get him
into this beauty ;^)
Later, and sorry for your loss Mike.
Steve Tatro
Red/Black '93 with 164k miles
Cincinnati, Ohio
-----Original Message-----
From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Mark D. Mallory
Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 3:21 PM
To: Michael S Wojton; shotimes@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Join me in my loss...
WOW! That really sucks... and I thought it was bad when someone tried to
break into my car a few years ago. Hope the replacements work out well.
Keep us posted.
Mark Mallory
Toledo, Ohio
'95 SHO MTX
> -----Original Message-----
> From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
> [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Michael S Wojton
> Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 10:54 AM
> To: shotimes@autox.team.net
> Subject: [Shotimes] Join me in my loss...
>
>
> My car was hit out in front of my house early this morning. It is
> most likely totalled. The assailant fled the scene, but not without
> leaving behind a crucial bit of evidence: namely his front license
> plate.
>
> Needless to say, I am quite bummed. But I already have some leads on
> some possible replacements. Wish me luck.
>
> ps. At least I can return all the front end components I just
> purchased and don't have to look forward to a rebuild in the cold. :
> )
>
>
> Mike Wojton
> '95 MTX (most likely deceased)
> Toledo, Ohio
> shomike@tri-statesho-svt.org
>
> K&N sans silencer cone
> SHO Shop Y-pipe
>
> "Avoid the clap." - Jimmy Dugan
> _______________________________________________
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> Shotimes@autox.team.net http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo/shotimes
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Message: 8
Reply-To: <stevetatro@att.net>
From: "Steve Tatro" <stevetatro_shotimes@att.net>
To: "'Michael S Wojton'" <Mike.Wojton@owens-ill.com>
Cc: <shotimes@autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Join me in my los
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 16:43:20 -0500
You don't want it. Trust me.
It's been meticulously maintained and hasn't had a serious problem in the 6
years I've owned it.
That means it's due ;^)
Steve "Furiously knocking on wood" Tatro
Red/Black '93 with 164k miles
Cincinnati, Ohio
-----Original Message-----
From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Michael S Wojton
Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 4:40 PM
Cc: shotimes@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Join me in my los
Does that mean it's cheap?
Mike Wojton
'95 MTX
Toledo, Ohio
shomike@tri-statesho-svt.org
K&N sans silencer cone
SHO Shop Y-pipe
"Avoid the clap." - Jimmy Dugan
------------------( Forwarded letter 1 follows )---------------------
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 15:33:28 -0500
To: mike.wojton, Mark.D.Mallory[mmallory78]@earthlink.net,
shotimes@autox.team.net
From: Steve.Tatro[stevetatro_shotimes]@att.net
Sender: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
Reply-To: stevetatro@att.net
Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Join me in my loss...
Wonder if I could talk Mike into buying a beautiful red '93 ATX that was
recently "serviced" by Mark Mallory?
I'm *sure* his insurance payout would cover the cost required to get him
into this beauty ;^)
Later, and sorry for your loss Mike.
Steve Tatro
Red/Black '93 with 164k miles
Cincinnati, Ohio
-----Original Message-----
From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Mark D. Mallory
Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 3:21 PM
To: Michael S Wojton; shotimes@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Join me in my loss...
WOW! That really sucks... and I thought it was bad when someone tried to
break into my car a few years ago. Hope the replacements work out well.
Keep us posted.
Mark Mallory
Toledo, Ohio
'95 SHO MTX
> -----Original Message-----
> From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
> [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Michael S Wojton
> Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 10:54 AM
> To: shotimes@autox.team.net
> Subject: [Shotimes] Join me in my loss...
>
>
> My car was hit out in front of my house early this morning. It is
> most likely totalled. The assailant fled the scene, but not without
> leaving behind a crucial bit of evidence: namely his front license
> plate.
>
> Needless to say, I am quite bummed. But I already have some leads on
> some possible replacements. Wish me luck.
>
> ps. At least I can return all the front end components I just
> purchased and don't have to look forward to a rebuild in the cold. :
> )
>
>
> Mike Wojton
> '95 MTX (most likely deceased)
> Toledo, Ohio
> shomike@tri-statesho-svt.org
>
> K&N sans silencer cone
> SHO Shop Y-pipe
>
> "Avoid the clap." - Jimmy Dugan
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 16:51:00 -0500
From: "Michael S Wojton" <Mike.Wojton@owens-ill.com>
To: stevetatro@att.net
Cc: shotimes@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Join me in my los
Hey! Watch that wood-knocking pally. You'll go blind!
Mike Wojton
'95 MTX
Toledo, Ohio
shomike@tri-statesho-svt.org
K&N sans silencer cone
SHO Shop Y-pipe
"Avoid the clap." - Jimmy Dugan
------------------( Forwarded letter 1 follows )---------------------
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 16:43:20 -0500
To: Mike.Wojton
Cc: shotimes@autox.team.net
From: Steve.Tatro[stevetatro_shotimes]@att.net
Reply-To: stevetatro@att.net
Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Join me in my los
You don't want it. Trust me.
It's been meticulously maintained and hasn't had a serious problem in the 6
years I've owned it.
That means it's due ;^)
Steve "Furiously knocking on wood" Tatro
Red/Black '93 with 164k miles
Cincinnati, Ohio
-----Original Message-----
From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Michael S Wojton
Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 4:40 PM
Cc: shotimes@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Join me in my los
Does that mean it's cheap?
Mike Wojton
'95 MTX
Toledo, Ohio
shomike@tri-statesho-svt.org
K&N sans silencer cone
SHO Shop Y-pipe
"Avoid the clap." - Jimmy Dugan
------------------( Forwarded letter 1 follows )---------------------
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 15:33:28 -0500
To: mike.wojton, Mark.D.Mallory[mmallory78]@earthlink.net,
shotimes@autox.team.net
From: Steve.Tatro[stevetatro_shotimes]@att.net
Sender: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
Reply-To: stevetatro@att.net
Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Join me in my loss...
Wonder if I could talk Mike into buying a beautiful red '93 ATX that was
recently "serviced" by Mark Mallory?
I'm *sure* his insurance payout would cover the cost required to get him
into this beauty ;^)
Later, and sorry for your loss Mike.
Steve Tatro
Red/Black '93 with 164k miles
Cincinnati, Ohio
-----Original Message-----
From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Mark D. Mallory
Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 3:21 PM
To: Michael S Wojton; shotimes@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Join me in my loss...
WOW! That really sucks... and I thought it was bad when someone tried to
break into my car a few years ago. Hope the replacements work out well.
Keep us posted.
Mark Mallory
Toledo, Ohio
'95 SHO MTX
> -----Original Message-----
> From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
> [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Michael S Wojton
> Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 10:54 AM
> To: shotimes@autox.team.net
> Subject: [Shotimes] Join me in my loss...
>
>
> My car was hit out in front of my house early this morning. It is
> most likely totalled. The assailant fled the scene, but not without
> leaving behind a crucial bit of evidence: namely his front license
> plate.
>
> Needless to say, I am quite bummed. But I already have some leads on
> some possible replacements. Wish me luck.
>
> ps. At least I can return all the front end components I just
> purchased and don't have to look forward to a rebuild in the cold. :
> )
>
>
> Mike Wojton
> '95 MTX (most likely deceased)
> Toledo, Ohio
> shomike@tri-statesho-svt.org
>
> K&N sans silencer cone
> SHO Shop Y-pipe
>
> "Avoid the clap." - Jimmy Dugan
> _______________________________________________
> Shotimes mailing list
> Shotimes@autox.team.net http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo/shotimes
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Message: 10
From: "Ron Childs" <rchildssho@hotmail.com>
To: masho95@charter.net, shotimes@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Buzzing/grinding on startup
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 13:55:19 -0800
This sounds like the supposedly harmless noise made by the power steering
valve (of some kind.) I have never experienced this because it is warm
enough here for all the fat chicks to wear bikinis in January. :-)
-Ron Childs '91
>From: "Erik Balser" <masho95@charter.net>
>To: <shotimes@autox.team.net>
>Subject: [Shotimes] Buzzing/grinding on startup
>Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 15:45:21 -0500
>
>Just curious if anyone else has this problem? When it's really cold
>outside
>(20 degrees or lower) and my car is just being started there's a
>grinding/buzzing noise coming from the middle of the front of the car.
>Kinda sounds like starting the car when it's already started. Sounds like
>maybe the starter isn't disengaging quick enough on startup? This sound
>possible? BTW the starter is new as of 8/18/02 and this happened the
>winter
>before I replaced the starter. Thanks
>
>'95 MTX
>masho95
>http://webpages.charter.net/masho95
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 16:25:46 -0600
From: "Justin Schick" <jschick@aafp.org>
To: <shotimes@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Oscillating noise on engine braking
Is the exhaust stock, or? My SS Y pipe will sometimes rub, I think on the
shifter linkage, especially while reversing or downshifting.
Justin Schick - '92 SHO cruising around KC MO
189k and yes, it needs another clutch
SHOTimes list info: http://www.shotimes.com/SHO1.html
>>> "Paul Nimz" <niks@dlogue.net> 01/19/03 07:43PM >>>
On my '93 when downshifting and the subsequent engine braking I get an
oscillating noise that can best be described as "rungrungrungrung" Any
ideas?
Thanks
Paul Nimz
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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 14:29:23 -0800 (PST)
From: Scott Sweeney <webtrendsguy@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] (OT) Super Bowl
To: George Fourchy <krazgeo@jps.net>, "shotimes@autox.team.net"
<shotimes@autox.team.net>
Bucs to strong on the "D".
10-7 Bucs.
-Sweeney
George Fourchy <krazgeo@jps.net> wrote:OK....Forty-One points......Forty
One...
Take 75% of those away for the definitely good defense of the Bucs, and it
will be a
10 to 7 victory for the RAIDERS next week!!
George and the Raid...I mean, Lowrider
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Message: 13
From: "Ron Nottingham" <nottingham@alltel.net>
To: <shotimes@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] (OT) Super Bowl
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 17:56:10 -0500
My last prediction was way wrong. So better cheesesteaks doesn't mean you
have a better football team... So here is my new prediction... I predict
the Bucs will win, simply because Busch Gardens is in Tampa, and I like
Busch Gardens. So that is my twisted logic for the Super Bowl prediction
:-)
Ron N. - Dalton, GA
90 SHO
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Sweeney" <webtrendsguy@yahoo.com>
> Bucs to strong on the "D".
>
> 10-7 Bucs.
>
> -Sweeney
> George Fourchy <krazgeo@jps.net> wrote:OK....Forty-One points......Forty
One...
>
> Take 75% of those away for the definitely good defense of the Bucs, and it
will be a
> 10 to 7 victory for the RAIDERS next week!!
>
> George and the Raid...I mean, Lowrider
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