[Shotimes] EATC Question

[James White]

The outside temp sensor only goes sour when I try to clean up under the
hood, or when I go through a car wash and then open the hood.  The bra
collects water and dumps it on this silly sensor, which shorts it out.

Didn't even plan on entering the judging at the convention in MD because of
all of the low mileage SHOs out there driven by guys that only drive them in
good weather.  Like Paul, Joseph and John who appear to drive their pristine
examples around in a bubble.  On the other hand, I drive mine everyday,
recently on over salted roads.  After 232k+ the bra is there, not to
protect, but to hide all of the paint chips and scratches.

Thinking that the SHO judges should add some points for miles...  Bet that
the '95 will look better than anyother SHO at the '03 convention with 250k+,
but still would not get enough points for even an honorable mention for the
car SHO.

regards, Jim White - greensho@crown.net
Valparaiso, Indiana
'93  5 SPEED   276k few mods
'95  5 SPEED   232k lots of mods
"double clutch"  it's good for both you and your SHO

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kirk Doucette" <Kirk.doucette@verizon.net>
To: "James White" <greensho@crown.net>; <shotimes@autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 11:10 PM
Subject: RE: [Shotimes] EATC Question


> Did it get when in MD when you were swapping your struts? :)
>
> Kirk J Doucette
> NESHOC President
> Stormtrooper-97 White
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
[mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]On
> Behalf Of James White
> Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 9:24 PM
> To: shotimes@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] EATC Question
>
> Not quite right.  The EATC will go to full heat when the outside sensor is
> shorted out, in my case with water.  This short causes the outside temp to
> read -40F.  The EATC then fires up and goes to max heat, unless you have
> selected the "Max Cool" on the EATC buttons.
>
> My sensor gets wet occasionally and does this.  It did it all they way
from
> Chicago to Tulsa for the convention.  The Oklahoma heat helped it dry out
> and it functioned normally on the way home.
>
> Would like to replace it, but I have just never found the time to get one
> from the salvage yard and replace it.  Likely I will wear out the '95MTX
> before I do...
>
> Jim White - greensho@crown.net
> Valparaiso, Indiana
> '93  5 SPEED   276k few mods
> '95  5 SPEED   232k lots of mods
> "double clutch"  it's good for both you and your SHO
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Weidenbenner" <johnjweid@earthlink.net>
> To: <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 8:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] EATC Question
>
>
> > Follow the heater hoses from the firewall back to the engine. One of the
> > metal pipes has a 2 wire temperature sensor attached that senses the
> coolant
> > temperature.
> >
> > The 2 wire sensor screwed into the water passage cross pipe is for the
> PCM.
> >
> > The air temp sensor behind the grill only measures outside air
> temperature.
> > The ETAC makes no decisions from the sensor. SHOs not equiped with ETAC
do
> > not have this sensor.
> >
> > The sensor behind the interior vent provides feedback to the ETAC for
the
> > selected temperature setting. 89 SHOs do not have a SHO badge.
> >
> > John W.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Tommy" <thanasi73@videotron.ca>
> > To: "Jim and Debbie Leyden" <jndleyden@mindspring.com>;
> > <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 7:52 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Shotimes] EATC Question
> >
> >
> > > I think it's the one behind the "SHO" badge on the dashboard.
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Jim and Debbie Leyden" <jndleyden@mindspring.com>
> > > To: <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> > > Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 8:30 PM
> > > Subject: [Shotimes] EATC Question
> > >
> > >
> > > > Which temperature sensor is it that keeps the EATCblower from
turning
> on
> > > until
> > > > the engine starts to warm up?  and where is it located?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Jim
> > > > '93 MTX
> > > > with a blower that starts as soon as you start the car
> > > > Brrrrrrr!
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