[Shotimes] Won't start, dim flashing warning lights with KEY OUT!

[James F. Ryan III]

Whew!!  Good deal, Ron.  I was getting alot worried for you reading this
thread all day.


Jim Ryan
Wayne, NJ
'91 Plus  all white/mocha with fiberglass hood, rod shifter, & rear spoiler

255 Lph fuel pump, SHO Shop can & horn, 80mm MAF, S&B cone filter, SHO Shop
HiFlow Y-pipe & cat-back exhaust, SHO Shop LPM, SHO Shop underdrive pulleys,
SHO Shop HiRevs Jr clutch & steel billet LiteWeight flywheel, reinforced
engine & trans mounts, SHO Shop TQ limiters, SHO NUT aluminum SFBs, FPS 96
SHO front brakes, Carbotech F brake pads, Nooks full-body SFCs, Koni adj
struts, SHO Shop linear springs, 24mm FSB, 26mm RSB, SHO Shop steel f&r
STBs, Bridgestone Potenza RE-730 225/55-16, CATZ MSP fog lights, police
grille



>-----Original Message-----
>From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
>[mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of dereus@fbx.com
>Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 3:03 PM
>To: shotimes@autox.team.net
>Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Won't start, dim flashing warning lights with
>KEY OUT!
>
>
>I stopped by the shop that did the a/c work for me, just looking
>for ideas, not really thinking it was anything they did.  The
>owner (and mechanic who did the work) kindly drove out to my car,
>and remembered how he didn't like the way the little ground wire
>coming off the battery was attached to the fender but left it like
>it was since it was working.  He only found 8.5VDC there.  He took
>out the rubber grommet, cleaned the eyelet (sp?) and area around
>the hole in the fender, and voila!  We go ZOOM ZOOM again.  I
>thought that wire was critical for the PCM, but apparently it does
>a lot more than that.
>>
>>Ron DeReus
>>95MTX
>>
>>--- <dereus@fbx.com> wrote:
>>>Anybody have a CCRM to try in the Ames/Boone, IA, area for a
>95MTX?  Mr. Fitz, do you have one, and how much?
>>>re the CCRM's all the same for all the years and tranny options?
>>>
>>>The PO of this car told me the other day he got a 92, so maybe I
>could try that one if it would work.
>>>
>>>Update: This morning I hooked the battery back up.  It didn't
>start ticking or anything, temp gauge needle was still straight
>up, so I turned the key to "run" - no fuel pump noise, CE light is
>as bright or brigher as the others.  I tried to start it and it
>did the same thing as last night; turned over very strong, it
>tried to start for few seconds and quit, tach never moved, turned
>the key off and the ticking and dancing lights started up. The
>CCRM on top of the radiator is ticking, along with something in
>the snakes (injectors?); I unplugged the larger of 2 connectors in
>the snakes next to the DIS and the ticking stopped, but a "hum" is
>coming from under the glove box (PCM?) and the warning lights are
>still dancing.  I'm going out to disconnect the CCRM and see if
>the "hum" quits.  The battery connections are good, but maybe
>another connetion has been disturbed. Don't understand how it
>would be fine for 3 miles from the mechanic, and now got to heck.
>Maybe I'll call the !
>sh!
>>>op, too, to see if they have ideas.
>>>
>>>Ron D.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>--- "Steve Weinrich" <stevwein@swbell.net> wrote:
>>>>Sounds like something in the CCRM is either shorted (partially)
>or there is
>>>>a wiring harness fault.
>>>>
>>>>Unfortunately, the only way to tell for certain would be to swap out the
>>>>CCRM.
>>>>
>>>>Steve
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "Ron DeReus" <dereus@fbx.com>
>>>>To: "Shotimes" <shotimes@autox.team.net>
>>>>Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 7:11 PM
>>>>Subject: [Shotimes] Won't start, dim flashing warning lights
>with KEY OUT!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Help.  Got the a/c line replaced today at the shop, drove her
>3 miles in
>>>>> stop & go traffic back to work; temp gauge was at about the "O" when I
>>>>shut
>>>>> her off, so it was probably about ready to engage the
>radiator fan; ETAC
>>>>was
>>>>> still in "auto" mode.  After sitting about 20 minutes, went
>out, noticed
>>>>the
>>>>> temp gauge was straight up; tried to start, ran about 2
>seconds and quit,
>>>>> tach never moved.  Tried a few more times; noticed the fuel
>pump wasn't
>>>>> priming.  Pulled key out, noticed the oil/abs/etc... lights
>were doing a
>>>>dim
>>>>> little dance, and heard kind of a "ticking" from under the
>hood.  Couldn't
>>>>> trace the noise - unhooked the + side of the battery for 5
>minutes, held
>>>>the
>>>>> brake pedal down for a couple of those to try to reset the
>PCM.  Hooked up
>>>>> the battery, kind of heard a faint noise like a stuck
>electric motor or
>>>>> solenoid from the driver's side of the engine compartment,
>same location
>>>>as
>>>>> the ticking.  Is my CCRM toast?  Did the mechanics forget to hook
>>>>something
>>>>> up?  Having noises and dancing lights with no key in the
>ignition really
>>>>> wigs me out....
>>>>>
>>>>> Ron DeReus
>>>>> 95MTX
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