[Shotimes] VAPS problem & question

Sun, 13 Jul 2003 13:26:41 -0400

Allrighty then, something new learned here.

For those of you that have both a VAPS and non-VAPS equipped SHO, which do
you like better and why?

Cheers,
Carl Prochilo
92 Ultra Red Crimson
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ian Fisher" <ianf@eden.rutgers.edu>
To: "Carl Prochilo" <gr8sho@prochilo.myserver.org>
Cc: "'SHOTIMES'" <shotimes@autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2003 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] VAPS problem & question

> introduced in 93. It's the same rack as the Lincoln Continental, VAPS and
> all.
>
> Ian
>
> On Sun, 13 Jul 2003, Carl Prochilo wrote:
>
> > Shotimes appears to be down at the moment, but I thought that VAPS was
> > introduced in the 95 MY.  I will say that comparing the 95 and the 92,
there
> > is a world of difference in terms of feel.  The 95 seems much more of a
toy
> > with the VAPS.  No effort at all to rotate the wheel.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Carl Prochilo
> > 92 Ultra Red Crimson
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ron Porter" <ronporter@prodigy.net>
> > To: "'Paul Nimz'" <niks@dlogue.net>; "'SHOTIMES'"
<shotimes@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2003 9:13 AM
> > Subject: RE: [Shotimes] VAPS problem & question
> >
> >
> > > Yeah, I guess the best VAPS is one that you don't notice, and I can't
say
> > > that I never noticed it on my '99.
> > >
> > > Still seems to be a needless complication, though.
> > >
> > > Ron Porter
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
[mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
> > > On Behalf Of Paul Nimz
> > > Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2003 2:16 AM
> > > To: Ron Porter; 'SHOTIMES'
> > > Subject: RE: [Shotimes] VAPS problem & question
> > >
> > >
> > > Actually the Gen 3 VAPS IMO is very good, at least better than my '93.
I
> > > have disabled the strut part of the SARC though on the '97.
> > >
> > > Paul Nimz
> > > '97 TR
> > > '93 EG mtx
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Ron Porter [mailto:ronporter@prodigy.net]
> > > Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2003 1:08 AM
> > > To: 'Paul Nimz'; 'SHOTIMES'
> > > Subject: RE: [Shotimes] VAPS problem & question
> > >
> > >
> > > This sounds like Leigh's situation, where it is "stuck" at high boost.
> > >
> > > Mine just seems way overboosted at the low-speed setting (under 20 mph
or
> > > so, I believe). It still seems boosted more than I like at higher
speeds,
> > > but it does seem to back out some of the boost.
> > >
> > > Goofy system. VAPS and SARC were probably projects for summer interns
with
> > > too much time on their hands!!
> > >
> > > Ron Porter
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
[mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
> > > On Behalf Of Paul Nimz
> > > Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2003 2:00 AM
> > > To: 'SHOTIMES'
> > > Subject: RE: [Shotimes] VAPS problem & question
> > >
> > >
> > > IIRC the Gen 2 VAPS is a 4 step situation with the most boost at 0
mph.  I
> > > would assume then that if the effort is very easy then you have lost
12V+
> > to
> > > the VAPS system while not moving and it is stuck there.
> > >
> > > The VAPS relies on the VSS and the VAPS module for signal processing.
The
> > > power flows through the ignition switch and through the interior fuse
> > panel,
> > > fuse #5 on the '94 for power to the VAPS module.
> > >
> > > Paul Nimz
> > > '97 TR
> > > '93 EG mtx
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
> > > [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Bob and Anonda
> > > Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2003 7:44 PM
> > > To: Ron Porter; 'Leigh Smith'; 'SHOTIMES'
> > > Subject: Re: [Shotimes] VAPS problem & question
> > >
> > >
> > > Well, mine is a 3G SLO, but the VAPS is the same.  Mine doesn't feel
like
> > it
> > > "kicks in" until at least about 40-45 MPH.  Nimz I'm sure knows the
exact
> > > specs though.
> > >
> > > Bob
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Ron Porter" <ronporter@prodigy.net>
> > > To: "'Leigh Smith'" <leighsm@comcast.net>; "'SHOTIMES'"
> > > <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> > > Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2003 8:08 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [Shotimes] VAPS problem & question
> > >
> > >
> > > > It's no help, but mine always feels to be on full boost on my '94.
> > > >
> > > > Isn't the VAPS system at full boost at low speed anyway? It is much
> > > lighter
> > > > than the steering was in my '95, which has the same system, I
believe.
> > > >
> > > > Ron Porter
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
> > [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
> > > > On Behalf Of Leigh Smith
> > > > Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2003 5:01 PM
> > > > To: SHOTIMES
> > > > Subject: [Shotimes] VAPS problem & question
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > My VAPS power steering on my 94 is apparrently broken.
> > > > It is always on full boost.
> > > > The steering has so little feel I can turn it with my little finger!
> > > >
> > > > Even with the Helms, I cannot figure it out.
> > > > I have gotten it into test mode, and it will "firm up" during
testing,
> > > > but immmediately goes back to full soft after jumper removal.
> > > > Anyone else ever have any similar problem or any luck fixing it?????
> > > > I can't figure out if it is the module, the actuator, the rack, or
the
> > > > wiring.
> > > >
> > > > TIA
> > > > Lee
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