[Shotimes] OT - IRL Gen 4 Chevy, NOT!

[Paul Nimz]

Rumor has it that Porsche is behind the Ford Duratec motors.

Paul Nimz
'97 TR
'93 EG mtx


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron Porter" <ronporter@prodigy.net>
To: <shotimes@autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 1:23 PM
Subject: RE: [Shotimes] OT - IRL Gen 4 Chevy, NOT!


> Cosworth had a good reputation long before Ford bought them. Similar to
> Lotus, that does work for MANY car companies.
>
> Harley Davidson had Porsche help them with the V-Rod. Porsche had a few
> Japanese companies help them with production engineering. Porsche helped
> Mercedes with one (or more, don't recall the details) of their new
engines.
>
> It's the new reality. The company gets work where they can, and the
customer
> gets work done where they feel they get the best results.
>
> Ron Porter
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
> On Behalf Of Donald Mallinson
> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 1:45 PM
> To: shotimes@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] OT - IRL Gen 4 Chevy, NOT!
>
>
> DAve,
>
> Cosworth is an engineering firm and they do work for MANY
> clients.  Ford may own the firm, but they don't and should
> NOT control who they do work for.
>
> As with a lot of this type of firm, they do work in secret
> for a lot of companies, even the "competition".  Thus
> Cosworth, owned by Ford can do work for GM, but the work is
> kept secret and not shared with Ford.  Otherwise, NOBODY
> would do ANY work with Cosworth.
>
> Before Cosworth was purchased by Ford, they did work for all
> sorts of companies.  In racing you go with people that can
> get things done, and no matter who owns them, Cosworth is
> one of the best.
>
> Ford bought Cosworth to get some of their expertise, but
> also to make money.  For Cosworth to make money, they must
> do work for all their old and new clients, not just Ford.
>
> Everyone in the engineering and racing community KNOWS the
> contribution that Cosworth made, and yesterdays race raised
> their stock in trade a huge amount.  They got all the credit
> they needed or asked for.  Quite often a deal like this is
> kept secret.  I applaud Chevy for going public and fixing a
> very embarrassing problem.
>
> Lots of big companies need help.  Ferrari gets outside help,
> same with Mercedes, BMW and others.  They hire the
> competitions people, hire engineering firms, buy stuff off
> the shelf, even in F1.
>
> Needing help is also not anything to be ashamed of.  Happens
> to all the makes/racers at one time or another.  Roush,
> Penske, etc.
>
> Don Mallinson
>
> Dave Kegel wrote:
> > Yes.  I can't believe that deal went through.  Gen 4 Chevy.  What BS is
> > that?  Neither Ford nor Cosworth get any official credit, air time, or
> > marketing out of that deal.  Why the heck would they help bail out
Chevy,
> or
> > the IRL for that matter, which is the rival series to the Ford Powered
> CART
> > series?   And how will they be able to compete against them in a year or
> two
> > if CART goes belly up?
> >
> > Dave Kegel
> > Still a CART fan first and foremost, but I do watch all the IRL races
too.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Don McKinnon (AST)" <dmckinnon@asttechlabs.com>
> > To: <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: July 28, 2003 12:10 PM
> > Subject: RE: [Shotimes] OT - IRL Gen 4 Chevy, NOT!
> >
> >
> >
> >>IMHO, it is yet another Ford mistake!  Just think Ford could have come
> >
> > into
> >
> >>IRL and be a major presence, instead it lets GM pull their head out of
> >
> > their
> >
> >>ass...
> >
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