Okay, I know I am not supposed to send this to the list, but I have resorted to checking things out on the archives list on shotimes. What the heck! I am going through withdrawls here, not being able to read any of the posts. This for me, is like telling a female who likes to go to the mall, that they can't go to the mall. Ugghhh! Kris "just call me Abbi Normal" '91 Plus White '93 ATX Ultra Red