[Shotimes] anti-lock light
John Zarebski
jzarebsk@mnsi.net
Thu, 31 Jul 2003 10:09:58 -0700
Kerry
Check for corrosion on the terminals on the ABS relay located beside the
large wiring harness for the ABS.. clean it and re-install.. this might fix
it. Happened to me.. Suggest you do this before you buy stuff.
John
Chatham Ontario CAN
93 MTX
PP Ypipe, K&N Panel filter, Dynomax cat-back,
96 brake upgrade, Proportioning valve plugs,
Delrin sub-frame bushings
-----Original Message-----
From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
[mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Kerry Kinion
Sent: July 31, 2003 12:13 AM
To: Shotimes@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: [Shotimes] anti-lock light
I don't know yet if I want to tackle this myself. But as I think you said
before - this is how we all learn to maintain our SHO's. Yes I am fairly
mechanically inclined - especially after doing the 60k, radiator, battery
cables, water pump, CPS - on and on. I haven't had time lately to study up
on this one but I will try to soon. Thanks for the response Carl.
Kerry
-----Original Message-----
From: Carl Prochilo [mailto:gr8sho@prochilo.myserver.org]
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 1:44 PM
To: Kerry Kinion
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] anti-lock light
Are you asking because you want to tackle this yourself? I believe the pump
motor sits below the ABS controller towards the front of the car. If you
are
mechanically inclined and want do this yourself, I'd get a shop manual on CD
before attempting the job. I'm sure you can pickup a pump motor from one of
the people on the list.
Carl
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kerry Kinion" <kerry@kinionfurniture.com>
To: <Shotimes@autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 12:42 AM
Subject: RE: [Shotimes] anti-lock light
> I used my code reader and the only code thrown was 67 "pump motor". Where
is this and what do I look for??
>
> Thanks!
>
> Kerry ('93 MTX)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Carl Prochilo [mailto:gr8sho@prochilo.myserver.org]
> Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 1:25 PM
> To: Shotimes@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] anti-lock light
>
> Thanks to help from this listserv, I'm at a closure point on my Anti-Lock
> light problem. Here's the last chapter (knocking on wood). I'd like to
thank
> Ken Epperly for providing the information on pulling the codes.
>
> I had a repeat occurrence of the ABS light coming on, so I pulled the
codes
a
> second time (34 and 38 only this time) and they told me to look at the
driver
> side rear ABS sensor. I should point out here in both code pulls the same
> code came up first. Upon examination, the ring gear is fine. At 11 years
old
> my car is hardly rust free. From what I observed, rust particles and dirt
had
> gotten onto the sensor and almost eliminated any gap between the sensor
and
> the ring gear. The problem was very subtle and I almost missed it. To
take
> care of the debris, I used some brake cleaner and a nylon bristle brush to
> clean it up back there. Now there's a nice visible gap. After several
> spirited drives the light has stayed off. I've also tested the ABS
repeatedly
> by putting each side of the car on grass and hitting the brakes with
positive
> results.
>
> One reason I think this happened in the first place was because the entire
> rear brake system, including the e-brake, was replaced, and because there
is
> so much rust, I'm assuming that it settled back on the ABS sensor which
was
> one of the few things that actually stayed in place. The debris wasn't
much
> but enough to cause the ABS system to shutdown intermittently.
>
> So the moral of the story is,
> 1.. Pull the codes. Do this at least twice to insure that the problem
> you're chasing isn't moving around. By twice I mean get the codes
cleared,
> then drive the car and let the ABS light come on again, then pull the
codes
a
> second time.
> 2.. Use the very first number as the starting point for your
investigation.
> There's a good chance you'll get two or more codes.
> 3.. Since you're going to have to jack the car up and pull the wheel to
get
> a good look, you might as be prepared to clean that area. Inspect the
sensor,
> the ring gear and the cable.
> 4.. If the ring gear is fine and you are still getting codes, a good
> cleaning might resolve your problem. If not I would move on to the
sensor,
> keeping in mind that you may have to destroy the old sensor to remove it
if
> your car has any rust.
>
> Cheers,
> Carl Prochilo
> 92 Ultra Red Crimson
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Carl Prochilo
> To: Epperly ; Shotimes@autox.team.net
> Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 5:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] anti-lock light
>
>
> Here's an update. If you call AZ, chances are they'll tell you they
can't
> pull the codes. However, in reading a lot of the posts on shoforum.com,
it
> appears that most generic testers in the 20 USD range can pull codes from
both
> the EEC-IV and the ABS.
>
> For this sort of thing, the "Ken" method works perfectly fine. If you
have
> trouble finding the connector, look for a red plastic holder that has the
> words Anti-Lock Test stamped on it. The actual test connector unclips
from
> the holder so you can get at the pins.
>
> For my car, the codes I pulled are:
>
> 34,
> 35,
> 36,
> 28,
> 37,
> 62,
> 78
>
> There does appear to be a recurring theme for the LH Rear Sensor in that
it
> shows up three times. Hopefully I can find time soon to pull the wheel
and
> checkout the wiring to make sure it all is in good shape.
>
> Does LH = driver side?
>
> So given this set of codes, do y'all recommend anything else to try.
>
> Ken, Public thanks for sending the EXACT information I needed.
>
> Cheers,
> Carl Prochilo
> 92 Ultra Red Crimson
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Epperly" <epperly1@optonline.net>
> To: <Shotimes@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 5:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] anti-lock light
>
>
> > The codes can be read by grounding the trigger with the ground pin on
the
> > anti-lock test plug. With the clip side up tapered side the second
from
> the
> > right on the bottom is the trigger and the one above it, top right is
the
> > ground.
> > Ken
> > > Although I have never checked, I would think that some of the larger
> > > brake/muffler places would be able to read the ABS codes, as I would
> find
> > it
> > > hard to believe that Midas would send someone to a Ford dealer.
> > >
> > > Ron Porter
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
> [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
> > > On Behalf Of Kevin & Cheryl Airth
> > > Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 9:52 AM
> > > To: Carl Prochilo; Shotimes@autox.team.net
> > > Subject: Re: [Shotimes] anti-lock light
> > >
> > >
> > > Carl:
> > > The ABS codes can only be retrived with the Ford tool at the
dealer.
> All
> > > the ABS codes and troubleshooting is in the big Helm shop manual.
> > > .
> > > .
> > >
> > > > Anyone know where I can find the procedure to pull the ABS codes
and
> > their
> > > > meaning? The FAQ has no information on the ABS system.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Carl Prochilo
> > > > 92 Ultra Red Crimson
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