SLO vs. SHO atx was Re: [Shotimes] Swapping an auto tranny (semi-OT)

Sun, 8 Jun 2003 11:12:09 -0500

The PCM is calibrated for the trans designed for the application.

Good luck.
John W.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce Malachuk" <bmalach1@nycap.rr.com>
To: "John Weidenbenner" <johnjweid@earthlink.net>; <shotimes@autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 11:01 AM
Subject: Re: SLO vs. SHO atx was Re: [Shotimes] Swapping an auto tranny
(semi-OT)

> John,
>
> My 95 SE has an AX4S on it so I'm 99% sure that it would work just fine.
> Other than the covers saying SHO on them. It is a 3.0 Vulcan, which runs
> awesome even now, excepte for a really really hard shift up and down from
> 1-2. Oh ans some griding noises while sitting stopped. Since the car came
> with an AX4S I'm sure that the PCM is calibrated to understand and control
> that tranny.
>
> Bruce
> 94 Opal Frost MTX
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Weidenbenner" <johnjweid@earthlink.net>
> To: "Bruce Malachuk" <bmalach1@nycap.rr.com>; <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 11:52 AM
> Subject: SLO vs. SHO atx was Re: [Shotimes] Swapping an auto tranny
> (semi-OT)
>
>
> > I do not believe the AX4S trans are interchangeable from the SHO to SLO.
> > There are different chain drive ratios inside the trans that confuse the
> > PCM.
> >
> > I hope the SLO has the 3.0 Vulcan engine. If it has the 3.8 engine, just
> get
> > rid of the car.
> >
> > John W.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Bruce Malachuk" <bmalach1@nycap.rr.com>
> > To: "Kevin & Cheryl Airth" <clubairth@peoplepc.com>; "van Oss"
> > <vanOss@centurytel.net>; <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 7:20 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Swapping an auto tranny (semi-OT)
> >
> >
> > > I'm gonna be attacking a 95 SHO ATX tranny rebuild on my deck to then
> put
> > in
> > > my nearly dead 95 SLO. They both share an AX4S so it should be a
simple
> > > swap. I plan to dig into my helms and redo the whole thing, and add a
> > > shiftkit. The car is going to my mother and I want no problems for the
> > next
> > > 10 years with the tranny.
> > >
> > > Any tips or trick that make working/rebuilding one easier, I'd love to
> > hear
> > > about them. I'm sure Joseph would want to hear them too.
> > >
> > > Bruce
> > > 94 Opal Frost MTX
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Kevin & Cheryl Airth" <clubairth@peoplepc.com>
> > > To: "van Oss" <vanOss@centurytel.net>; <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> > > Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 1:56 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Swapping an auto tranny (semi-OT)
> > >
> > >
> > > > Joe:
> > > >  I have done two SHO ATX's now. It is a big job and be aware that
it's
> a
> > > > great time to replace other parts. Seals for oil leaks, suspension
> items
> > > > because your right there. You might also find additional problems
that
> > you
> > > > were not aware of. So start it with a open mind and try NOT to be
> under
> > > the
> > > > gun time wise. If you are in the rust belt that will add to the pain
> > > factor
> > > > getting things apart! You might even consider rebuilding it
yourself.
> At
> > > > least two different people on the list have. Make sure even on the
> > > standard
> > > > Taurus to use the TransGo shift kit. It's a must have item.  I only
R
> &
> > R
> > > > the units myself. You will need a engine support of some kind. I
made
> > one
> > > > and can send you a zip file of pictures if you want. It can surely
be
> > > > improved but it works great now. It has supported the SHO engine for
> > over
> > > 30
> > > > days when I did the first FPS tranny install.
> > > >  You will need two people to stab the unit and in general it's much
> > easier
> > > > with a hoist. How did you get your boys interested in turning
> wrenches?
> > > Mine
> > > > has no interest until the car breaks down and then not much!
> > > > .
> > > > .
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > This is regarding a Taurus LX with 3.8L and AXOD.  Sorry for the
> > > semi-OT.
> > > > >
> > > > > As some of you know, we've bought this LX for our boys to drive.
It
> > has
> > > a
> > > > > bad tranny and we are exploring options for how to get it fixed.
> > > > >
> > > > > -- Take whole car into local shop and have them do it all
> > > > > -- Remove tranny at home, have it rebuilt, and we put it back in
> > (saves
> > > > R&R
> > > > > labor)
> > > > > -- Buy another used or rebuilt tranny (Al Fitz, eBay, whatever)
and
> > swap
> > > > at
> > > > > home
> > > > >
> > > > > As a mechanic, I know that ATX internals are not for me.  But do
you
> > > think
> > > > I
> > > > > could handle R&R of an ATX?  You guys know what I have done
(managed
> > to
> > > do
> > > > > SHO rod bearings without a hospital stay or lawsuit).
> > > > >
> > > > > As a father, I would prefer that the boys do some of the work so
> that
> > > they
> > > > > learn.  Also I want them to feel invested in the car so that
they'll
> > > treat
> > > > > it with respect.
> > > > >
> > > > > Any advice welcome, either on a technical or parental level.
> > > > >
> > > > > Joseph van Oss
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