[Shotimes] cooling fan relay

[Steve Weinrich]

I also was not trying to make fun of the original post. I simply was unable
to decipher what the heck he was talking about in his opening explanation.
Since Jack translated it into a fleshed-out version, it is understandable.

The relay box is properly called the Integrated Relay Control Module (IRCM)
on 89-92 SHOs.  The nomenclature changed to Constant Control Rely Module
(CCRM) for 93-on models.

An individual relay can be spliced into the wiring harness to replace a
defective relay.  I have not located a source to the OEM relay within the
module as they were special ordered by Ford from Omron.  I also haven't
looked lately.

The IRCM/CCRM costs around 90-120 bucks depending on which one (year,
tranny) is needed.  Before assuming the relay module is at fault,
troubleshooting of the system in question is highly recommended.

Steve


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jack M." <shofear@ameritech.net>
To: "'-Newmy-'" <thenewmster@shaw.ca>; <mike.wojton@us.o-i.com>;
<shotimes@autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:16 PM
Subject: RE: [Shotimes] cooling fan relay


> I wasn't trying to make light of your problem, I'm actually going thru the
> same problem right now, so I figured I would expand on your story and give
a
> little more insight in hopes that someone would help solve our mutual
> problem.
>
> That's not a problem, is it?
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
[mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
> > On Behalf Of -Newmy-
> > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:06 PM
> > To: mike.wojton@us.o-i.com; Jack M.; shotimes@autox.team.net
> > Subject: Re: [Shotimes] cooling fan relay
> >
> > you guys seem to make it sound like its a big joke if someone asks a
> > question...
> > Curt
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <mike.wojton@us.o-i.com>
> > To: "Jack M." <shofear@ameritech.net>; <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:00 AM
> > Subject: RE: [Shotimes] cooling fan relay
> >
> >
> > > Wow!  That's pretty good.  I think you really captured the essence of
> > what
> > > he was trying to say.  I feel like I really know the characters now,
and
> > > feel
> > > something for them.  Not just blindly following along with the story
> > > because
> > > it's there.  I can almost...er...sorry.
> > >
> > >
> > > Mike Wojton
> > > Toledo, Ohio
> > >
> > > -'95 Green MTX  3/01-1/03
> > >    ShoShop y-pipe
> > >
> > > -'95 White MTX
> > >    '96 Brake Upgrade
> > >
> > > "Avoid the clap." - Jimmy Dugan
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > shotimes-admin@autox.team.net wrote on 06/07/2003 08:35:27 PM:
> > >
> > > > Let me fill in the blanks, because here is what I think he said:
> > > >
> > > > 1) my cooling fan is not turning on and the cooling fan relay is at
> > > fault.
> > > > That relay is in this housing which has many wires going in/out of
it.
> > > This
> > > > housing is just above the radiator on the drivers side, hidden by
the
> > > > plastic piece with the pictures of how the serpentine belts are
> > > configured
> > > > and all that other jazz. I would love to replace this relay
assembly,
> > > but
> > > > its too expensive (how much is that anyway?), so I am going to wire
a
> > > switch
> > > > directly to the fan motor and bypass the relay. If possible, is
there
> > > any
> > > > easy way to fix the cooling relay so I don't have to wire directly
to
> > > the
> > > > fan motor?
> > > >
> > > > 2) I ran the ecc self test by pushing OFF and FLOOR buttons
> > > simultaneously
> > > > and then the AUTOMATIC button within 2 seconds. After 20 seconds I
got
> > > code
> > > > 888 (no failures) but mistook it for a fault. When you first start
you
> > > car
> > > > and the ecc is given power, all of the lights/leds turn on as it
goes
> > > thru
> > > > its startup phase, and this is what the results of the ecc self test
> > > look
> > > > like. Not realizing this is the 888 code signifying that everything
is
> > > ok, I
> > > > probably also forgot to hit the COOLER button to exit the self test
> > > mode.
> > > >
> > > > Read the result codes here to get a better understanding. its kind
of
> > > > misleading because this page says that error code 6 means "no
errors",
> > > but I
> > > > believe its supposed to say "result code 6 which displays '888'
means
> > > that
> > > > there were no errors"
> > > >
> > > > http://www.shotimes.com/php-bin/print.php?sid=139
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > .jack
> > > > .94.opal.mtx
> > > > .SHOcago
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
> > > [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
> > > > > On Behalf Of Steve Weinrich
> > > > > Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 2:55 PM
> > > > > To: shotimes@autox.team.net
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Shotimes] cooling fan relay
> > > > >
> > > > > ?????  WTF????
> > > > >
> > > > > Steve
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "-Newmy-" <thenewmster@shaw.ca>
> > > > > To: <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> > > > > Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 2:42 PM
> > > > > Subject: [Shotimes] cooling fan relay
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hello everyone.
> > > > > > Do you guys have a quick fix for the multi function relay when
the
> > > > > cooling
> > > > > fan relay goes?
> > > > > > Im just gonna wire my fan direct, as that MF relay is quite
> > > expensive,
> > > > > but
> > > > > thought I would check with you guys first..
> > > > > > Also, I performed that eatc test to see why my fan is stuck on
> > > defrost,
> > > > > and after the 20 seconds, I dont get any codes but instead all the
> > > numbers
> > > > > and displays just stay on like when you first start up the
> > > vehicle....dont
> > > > > know what that means...
> > > > > > thanks!
> > > > > > Curt