[Shotimes] cooling fan relay

Tue, 10 Jun 2003 09:21:12 -0500

Just to complete the history of the IRCM/CCRM it was eliminated on the
'98-'99 GEN 3 SHO.

Paul Nimz
'97 TR
'93 EG mtx

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Weinrich" <stevwein@swbell.net>
To: <shotimes@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 7:09 AM
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] cooling fan relay

> I also was not trying to make fun of the original post. I simply was
unable
> to decipher what the heck he was talking about in his opening explanation.
> Since Jack translated it into a fleshed-out version, it is understandable.
>
> The relay box is properly called the Integrated Relay Control Module
(IRCM)
> on 89-92 SHOs.  The nomenclature changed to Constant Control Rely Module
> (CCRM) for 93-on models.
>
> An individual relay can be spliced into the wiring harness to replace a
> defective relay.  I have not located a source to the OEM relay within the
> module as they were special ordered by Ford from Omron.  I also haven't
> looked lately.
>
> The IRCM/CCRM costs around 90-120 bucks depending on which one (year,
> tranny) is needed.  Before assuming the relay module is at fault,
> troubleshooting of the system in question is highly recommended.
>
> Steve
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jack M." <shofear@ameritech.net>
> To: "'-Newmy-'" <thenewmster@shaw.ca>; <mike.wojton@us.o-i.com>;
> <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:16 PM
> Subject: RE: [Shotimes] cooling fan relay
>
>
> > I wasn't trying to make light of your problem, I'm actually going thru
the
> > same problem right now, so I figured I would expand on your story and
give
> a
> > little more insight in hopes that someone would help solve our mutual
> > problem.
> >
> > That's not a problem, is it?
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
> [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
> > > On Behalf Of -Newmy-
> > > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:06 PM
> > > To: mike.wojton@us.o-i.com; Jack M.; shotimes@autox.team.net
> > > Subject: Re: [Shotimes] cooling fan relay
> > >
> > > you guys seem to make it sound like its a big joke if someone asks a
> > > question...
> > > Curt
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <mike.wojton@us.o-i.com>
> > > To: "Jack M." <shofear@ameritech.net>; <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> > > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:00 AM
> > > Subject: RE: [Shotimes] cooling fan relay
> > >
> > >
> > > > Wow!  That's pretty good.  I think you really captured the essence
of
> > > what
> > > > he was trying to say.  I feel like I really know the characters now,
> and
> > > > feel
> > > > something for them.  Not just blindly following along with the story
> > > > because
> > > > it's there.  I can almost...er...sorry.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Mike Wojton
> > > > Toledo, Ohio
> > > >
> > > > -'95 Green MTX  3/01-1/03
> > > >    ShoShop y-pipe
> > > >
> > > > -'95 White MTX
> > > >    '96 Brake Upgrade
> > > >
> > > > "Avoid the clap." - Jimmy Dugan
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > shotimes-admin@autox.team.net wrote on 06/07/2003 08:35:27 PM:
> > > >
> > > > > Let me fill in the blanks, because here is what I think he said:
> > > > >
> > > > > 1) my cooling fan is not turning on and the cooling fan relay is
at
> > > > fault.
> > > > > That relay is in this housing which has many wires going in/out of
> it.
> > > > This
> > > > > housing is just above the radiator on the drivers side, hidden by
> the
> > > > > plastic piece with the pictures of how the serpentine belts are
> > > > configured
> > > > > and all that other jazz. I would love to replace this relay
> assembly,
> > > > but
> > > > > its too expensive (how much is that anyway?), so I am going to
wire
> a
> > > > switch
> > > > > directly to the fan motor and bypass the relay. If possible, is
> there
> > > > any
> > > > > easy way to fix the cooling relay so I don't have to wire directly
> to
> > > > the
> > > > > fan motor?
> > > > >
> > > > > 2) I ran the ecc self test by pushing OFF and FLOOR buttons
> > > > simultaneously
> > > > > and then the AUTOMATIC button within 2 seconds. After 20 seconds I
> got
> > > > code
> > > > > 888 (no failures) but mistook it for a fault. When you first start
> you
> > > > car
> > > > > and the ecc is given power, all of the lights/leds turn on as it
> goes
> > > > thru
> > > > > its startup phase, and this is what the results of the ecc self
test
> > > > look
> > > > > like. Not realizing this is the 888 code signifying that
everything
> is
> > > > ok, I
> > > > > probably also forgot to hit the COOLER button to exit the self
test
> > > > mode.
> > > > >
> > > > > Read the result codes here to get a better understanding. its kind
> of
> > > > > misleading because this page says that error code 6 means "no
> errors",
> > > > but I
> > > > > believe its supposed to say "result code 6 which displays '888'
> means
> > > > that
> > > > > there were no errors"
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.shotimes.com/php-bin/print.php?sid=139
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > .jack
> > > > > .94.opal.mtx
> > > > > .SHOcago
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
> > > > [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
> > > > > > On Behalf Of Steve Weinrich
> > > > > > Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 2:55 PM
> > > > > > To: shotimes@autox.team.net
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [Shotimes] cooling fan relay
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ?????  WTF????
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Steve
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "-Newmy-" <thenewmster@shaw.ca>
> > > > > > To: <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> > > > > > Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 2:42 PM
> > > > > > Subject: [Shotimes] cooling fan relay
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hello everyone.
> > > > > > > Do you guys have a quick fix for the multi function relay when
> the
> > > > > > cooling
> > > > > > fan relay goes?
> > > > > > > Im just gonna wire my fan direct, as that MF relay is quite
> > > > expensive,
> > > > > > but
> > > > > > thought I would check with you guys first..
> > > > > > > Also, I performed that eatc test to see why my fan is stuck on
> > > > defrost,
> > > > > > and after the 20 seconds, I dont get any codes but instead all
the
> > > > numbers
> > > > > > and displays just stay on like when you first start up the
> > > > vehicle....dont
> > > > > > know what that means...
> > > > > > > thanks!
> > > > > > > Curt
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