[Shotimes] RE: mystery Metal

[Kirk Doucette]

Couldn't something have dropped in from the spark plug hole?  Where is the
cylinder, at the back or the front of the engine?

Kirk Doucette <Kirk.doucette@verizon.net> wrote:

	Well the pieces that we saw could not get by the valve, if it tried the
valve would show this. There are no markings on the valves, seats, and all
the guides are intact.

	In the middle



	Kirk J Doucette

	NESHOC President

	Stormtrooper-97 White



	-----Original Message-----
	From: SHOLANDO [mailto:sholando@yahoo.com]
	Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 1:01 PM
	To: Kirk Doucette; Carter Fuji; CFuji@aol.com; v8sho@v8sho.com;
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	Subject: RE: mystery Metal







	Something came from below the valves, somewhere somehow



	Kirk J Doucette

	NESHOC President

	Stormtrooper-97 White



	-----Original Message-----
	From: Carter Fuji [mailto:carterfuji58@hotmail.com]
	Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 7:58 AM
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	Another thought is the TB butterfly screw though when I tried to take mine
out it stripped the screwdriver tip before I got it loose. My experience is
that a fairly heavy object can and will travel the intake to the cylinders.
Not much will make it past the reletively small opening of the valve without
holding it open long enouigh to bend the piss out of it. On the otherhand,
how could enough of the ring make it past the top land of the piston to
cause that much damage without much warning? The top of mine was pretty well
toasted yet it didn't pass the ring and it sounded like a cam sprocket for
about 100 milles then proceeded to make more of a bad rod bearing noise as
the cylinder dried out after the rings welded to the piston.
	Carter Fuji

	Just another former customer that cost Ford millions of dollars '97 ES
Whoosh

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	Greenwood, AR.

	>From: "Kirk Doucette"

	>To: , ,

	>Subject: RE: mystery Metal

	>Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 07:42:14 -0400

	>

	>Yep and Magnetic.B B B  Good question about the butterflies and the
screws.. Although the steel that we seen at his house and the other small
piece that I found; look to be stamped and have an edge on them. AL fitz and
a few others have seen the v6 break up and throw rings up into the cyl, So
maybe my last thought wasnbt so bad.. Wont really know until I rib the block
down and see.

	>

	>Kirk J Doucette

	>NESHOC President

	>Stormtrooper-97 White

	>

	>-----Original Message-----

	>From: CFuji@aol.com [mailto:CFuji@aol.com]

	>Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 7:29 AM

	>To: Kirk.doucette@verizon.net; v8sho@v8sho.com; shotimes@autox.team.net

	>Subject: Re: mystery Metal

	>

	>In a message dated 6/21/03 7:30:26 PM Central Daylight Time,
Kirk.doucette@verizon.net writes:

	>

	>

	>

	>I pulled a piece out that was about 7mm long and the original pieces were
larger. There is no damage to the valve seat side of the valve so it didnbt
come in that way.

	>

	>

	>Is this Greg's engine? If not were the pieces steel or nonmagnetic? Wonder
if the butterflies on the IMRC have all the screws still attached?

	>Carter Fujibayashi

	>Greenwood, AR.

	>'97 ES Supercharged

	>SuperFord.org - Carter Fujibayashi's 1997 Ford Taurus

	>http://www.shoforum.com/FeaturedSHO/ARKANSHO/index.htm

	>

	>





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