[Shotimes] WAY OT- TCCA
Bob and Anonda
bobnanonda@cox.net
Thu, 26 Jun 2003 13:12:33 -0400
Apologies to the board, I should have sent this to Mike only.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Weinrich" <stevwein@swbell.net>
To: <shotimes@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 7:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] WAY OT- TCCA
> How about you guys just send this to each other and don't sent it to the
> mailing list anymore.....
>
> Steve
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "sho2go" <srfdude@cox.net>
> To: "Bob and Anonda" <bobnanonda@cox.net>; "Midwest SHO Specialists"
> <SHOtimes@midwestsho.com>; <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 6:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] WAY OT- TCCA
>
>
> > I'm a little puzzled why you folks are flaming each other regarding
> another
> > board? How about taking it somewhere else. We got enough of our own
> > problems here ;-) but not sure if you think we are going to rush over to
> > join the TCCA after seeing all this crap?
> > Mike
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Bob and Anonda" <bobnanonda@cox.net>
> > To: "Midwest SHO Specialists" <SHOtimes@midwestsho.com>; "Ron Porter"
> > <ronporter@prodigy.net>; "'Paul Nimz'" <niks@dlogue.net>;
> > <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 3:58 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Shotimes] WAY OT- TCCA
> >
> >
> > > So to get this straight, TCCA members should go to SHOforum to get
your
> > mods
> > > list? Maybe you did put it there, I don't go there often so I have
not
> > > checked, but it was asked for on the TCCA.
> > >
> > > The downward spiral thing is bullshit. There are many more successful
> > meets
> > > now than ever, and our first annual is this year. Maybe the content
is
> > not
> > > what you're looking for, but that's an individual opinion. Not every
> list
> > > is going to satisfy everyone. Heck, I find this one boring as hell,
> > although
> > > it is the first place I would come for info on my 89, provided Kirk or
> > Fred
> > > did not have an answer.
> > >
> > > The V8 list is entertaining, and there's really not a lot of available
> > > subjects car related for the Gen 3's. Everything has pretty much been
> > > covered at one point or another. As the cars get older and different
> > > maintenance issues come up, I expect the list will take a turn more
> > towards
> > > the content of this list.
> > >
> > > As far as TCCA bashing, it's been done by you in the past "Burn down
the
> > > TCCA"? So that's what I base my opinions on. I know, it was said
> because
> > > you got banned or something, but that tag line was in your sig on many
> > > forums even after the ban was lifted. You took out your frustrations
> with
> > > an individual on a whole club.
> > >
> > > Anyhow, I suppose this discussion could go on for weeks. Most SHO
> people
> > do
> > > not find what they need on the TCCA, and that's what I'm looking to
> > change.
> > > There has been a regular influx of registrations from the SHOforum, as
> > well
> > > as the V8 list. We are headed in the right direction already.
> > >
> > > As far as presenting a challenge to you, and "dumbfounfing" the
members,
> > the
> > > point is to present the information in a manner that the general
public
> > can
> > > use. In example, I put a Diablo Chip in a customer's car last week.
> All
> > > most people want to know is how it will change the car in terms of
> > throttle
> > > response, acceleration, top speed, etc. Only the true gearheads will
> want
> > > to know every last spec of the fuel and ignition tables, etc. I feel
> that
> > > "dumbfounding" posts are made to make the poster sound that much more
> > > intelligent, all the while confusing the members. Needless, IMO.
> > >
> > > Well, there's my biased viewpoint, like it or not. : )
> > >
> > > My apologies to the list for going so OT.
> > >
> > > Bob Gervais
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Midwest SHO Specialists" <SHOtimes@midwestsho.com>
> > > To: "Bob and Anonda" <bobnanonda@cox.net>; "Ron Porter"
> > > <ronporter@prodigy.net>; "'Paul Nimz'" <niks@dlogue.net>;
> > > <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 5:07 PM
> > > Subject: [Shotimes] WAY OT- TCCA
> > >
> > >
> > > > Bob,
> > > >
> > > > I didn't mean to come off as cocky. In fact that same night I
listed
> > all
> > > of
> > > > my mods in the "bragging rights" post on SHOforum. After doing so
> much,
> > > > it's hard to remember a lot of the smaller things. I'm not even
sure
> > the
> > > > list on SHOforum is complete.
> > > >
> > > > I posted in your Super Vulc post and found that most were less then
> > > > interested. It seems that people actually don't want to move beyond
> > > intakes
> > > > and exhausts. My car is fast because of what I have and I will
answer
> > > > anyone that wants to know what I have on it. I am not the type of
> > person
> > > > that walks around and says that there car is "stock" when asked what
> > they
> > > > did to make it fast. No one learns that way.
> > > >
> > > > On the same token, I don't get any challenge from TCCA. It's no fun
> > when
> > > > it's one person making all the technical posts and then when you do
> make
> > a
> > > > technical post everyone is dumbfounded and confused and no one
> replies.
> > > >
> > > > This isn't TCCA bashing, rather it's just the TCCA. It's the truth.
> I
> > > > don't hate anyone on that forum or look down on it, which is the
> > > assumption
> > > > you seem to have made. I made a lot of friends there back in the
old
> > > days,
> > > > but the content has gone from bad to worse.
> > > >
> > > > Email me something I can do to help you, tech articles, posting
> > questions,
> > > > stirring up new topics, etc, and I'm happy to help, but until I see
> that
> > > > there is some kind of knowledge being gained I will continue to be a
> SHO
> > > > Forum/ SHO times list/ SHOcago junky and stand by what I said.
> > > >
> > > > Mike Kopstain
> > > > Midwest SHO Specialists
> > > > 827 North Chestnut Avenue
> > > > Arlington Heights, IL 60004
> > > > www.MidwestSHO.com
> > > > Sales@midwestsho.com
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Bob and Anonda" <bobnanonda@cox.net>
> > > > To: "Midwest SHO Specialists" <SHOtimes@midwestsho.com>; "Ron
Porter"
> > > > <ronporter@prodigy.net>; "'Paul Nimz'" <niks@dlogue.net>;
> > > > <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 4:34 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [Shotimes] OT- Looking for Taurus SLO dlist
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I agree it gets frustrating at times, however the thread I started
> on
> > > > > building a SuperVulc was not commented on by many of the same
people
> > > that
> > > > > complain about too many exhaust and intake questions. Lemme make
it
> > > > simple
> > > > > of whom I mean, you, Mike. Your SLO runs great from what you say,
> but
> > > you
> > > > > either will not, or cannot, discuss the mods you have done to make
> it
> > > run
> > > > > quickly. I'm referring to the SLO vs. SHO post. You said you
kept
> up
> > > and
> > > > > even pulled on a SHO, albeit one that was running poorly, but then
> > > "could
> > > > > not remember" what mods you had done.
> > > > >
> > > > > Weird. I'm 35 and I can remember everything I've done to my rides
> > over
> > > > the
> > > > > years.
> > > > >
> > > > > To sum up, I like ya Mike, but this "exhaust/intake" thing will
only
> > > stop
> > > > if
> > > > > the experienced people speak up about what they've done, and what
> it's
> > > > > accomplished.
> > > > >
> > > > > Bob Gervais
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Midwest SHO Specialists" <SHOtimes@midwestsho.com>
> > > > > To: "Ron Porter" <ronporter@prodigy.net>; "'Paul Nimz'"
> > > <niks@dlogue.net>;
> > > > > <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 11:09 AM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Shotimes] OT- Looking for Taurus SLO dlist
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Gonna have to go with Ron on this one... There isn't much
> technical
> > > > > advice
> > > > > > being tossed around over there, with the exception of Mr Nimz,
Bob
> > > > > Gervais,
> > > > > > and some others. Unfortunetly it's not even a good place for
kids
> > to
> > > > > begin
> > > > > > to learn about cars as it appears to be the blind leading the
> blind.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Anyone for an intake or an exhaust question?! :-)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mike Kopstain
> > > > > > Midwest SHO Specialists
> > > > > > 827 North Chestnut Avenue
> > > > > > Arlington Heights, IL 60004
> > > > > > www.MidwestSHO.com
> > > > > > Sales@midwestsho.com
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Ron Porter" <ronporter@prodigy.net>
> > > > > > To: "'Paul Nimz'" <niks@dlogue.net>; <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 11:38 AM
> > > > > > Subject: RE: [Shotimes] OT- Looking for Taurus SLO dlist
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > At least 3 out of 4 posts are about the cars, not the other
way
> > > > around!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ron Porter
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
> > > > > [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
> > > > > > > On Behalf Of Paul Nimz
> > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 1:43 AM
> > > > > > > To: shotimes@autox.team.net
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Shotimes] OT- Looking for Taurus SLO dlist
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Oh I don't know, there is plenty on this list too.....
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Paul Nimz
> > > > > > > '97 TR
> > > > > > > '93 EG mtx
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: "Ron Porter" <ronporter@prodigy.net>
> > > > > > > To: "'Kevin & Cheryl Airth'" <clubairth@peoplepc.com>;
"'Roush,
> > > > Norman'"
> > > > > > > <norman.roush@hp.com>; <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> > > > > > > Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 7:40 PM
> > > > > > > Subject: RE: [Shotimes] OT- Looking for Taurus SLO dlist
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > He should get to the actual forum with the link below, but
> > here's
> > > > the
> > > > > > > exact
> > > > > > > > one:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > http://www.tauruscarclub.com/forum/index.php
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Warning; If he is over 21, he will feel like a "grandpa" on
> that
> > > > > list!!
> > > > > > > The
> > > > > > > > only thing that rivals the V8 SHO listserv for juvenile
> behavior
> > > is
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > TCCA
> > > > > > > > Forum.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Ron Porter
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
> > > > > > [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
> > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Kevin & Cheryl Airth
> > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 8:13 PM
> > > > > > > > To: Roush, Norman; shotimes@autox.team.net
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Shotimes] OT- Looking for Taurus SLO dlist
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Norman:
> > > > > > > > Try this:
> > > > > > > > http://www.tauruscarclub.com/forum/
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > My neighbor has a 93 Taurus SLO and is looking for some
> > upgrade
> > > > > help.
> > > > > > > > IIRC, there's a dlist for SLO owners that might be helpful.
> If
> > > any
> > > > of
> > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > know it can you send it to me off-line?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > > > Norman
> > > > > > > > > 95 ATX
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