[Shotimes] brakes funny after new pads - kinda long

[Ron DeReus]

The lame way...

Do parts stores loan out he vacuum and pressure bleeders?  I bet they would
help get any air out of the ABS controller, too.  The Chilton's mentioned
some special code reader or something that would activate the parts of the
ABS controller to flush out the air as you bled each wheel.

I know some of you mentioned having this done at dealerships in the past
with their special equipment - but neither one near me, nor Midas, seemed to
know about anything special to be done on ABS equipped vehicles.

Ron D.

-----Original Message-----
From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
[mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Ron Porter
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2003 4:02 PM
To: 'Ron DeReus'; 'Shotimes'
Subject: RE: [Shotimes] brakes funny after new pads - kinda long


It sounds like you need to bleed the brakes again. If you had the ABS kick
in, you have had the new fluid run though the system.

How are you bleeding the brakes? The "having a friend push the pedal" method
is the lamest way to go. A vacuum or pressure bleeder does the best job.
The type of brake pad also matters, although the PFCM pads will give you a
firm pedal (unlike cheap pads like Albanys)

Ron Porter

-----Original Message-----
From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Ron DeReus
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2003 3:33 PM
To: Shotimes
Subject: [Shotimes] brakes funny after new pads - kinda long


Ok, I got new PFCM pads installed on all 4 corners this week - 6014's front
and 6104's rear; found a couple frozen sliders I fixed, too.  Surfaced all
the rotors; none needed replaced, I'm guessing they're factory still.  Never
cracked a bleeder - when compressing the caliper pistons, just let it go
back to the master cylinder.

Took it out for a drive, and it acts like I have no power assist now- spongy
until it the brakes start to work, but then I can stand on them for all I'm
worth and not get them to lock up OR get the ABS to kick in.  I thought
maybe they needed bedded in, so I did about four 60-0 stops until I started
to smell them, drove several miles back home to allow them to cool, and
parked it for the night.  But 3 days of normal driving later, they still
don't seem right.  I had some other guys at work drive it, and one of them
did get the brakes to lockup, and he thinks the ABS computer needs reset,
like a Bronco or something he used to have.  How do I do this?  I did try to
dump the normal computer while doing the brakes (battery out, pressed on the
brake pedal for a minute or so to dump the memory.)

I have ATE brake fluid on the way from Raceshopper, so we will be flushing
and bleeding the system this week if this is all I need.

TIA

Ron DeReus
95MTX
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