[Shotimes] Timing belt Help :>(

[Mark D. Mallory]

I had experienced a similar problem on a friends SHO after a 60k.
Unfortunately I never found out what the real problem was.  All I can say is
that we spent a good two hours in the cold trying to get the car to start.
Timing was correct, spark plug order was correct, we had spark, and we had
fuel (and fuel pressure).  The bugger just wouldn't start.  We decided to
let it sit for a while and try again later.  Sure enough it fired up about a
half an hour later.

I would double check the battery.  Make sure it's got enough charge to start
the car and that no cells are bad and that the terminals and contacts are
all clean and connected.  Try again in the morning... could just be flooded.

Hope this helps (at least a little, teanie-tiny bit)

Mark Mallory
Toledo, Ohio
'95 SHO MTX

>-----Original Message-----
>From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
>[mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Midwest SHO
>Specialists
>Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 12:15 AM
>To: shotimes@autox.team.net
>Subject: [Shotimes] Timing belt Help :>(
>
>
>Hey guys,
>
>I'm at my wits end here and I am looking for ANY help or insight.
>To premise
>the problems you are about to read, here is a little summary of
>the problem.
>
>We received this car, not running.  It is a 3.2 conversion with 0
>miles.  The
>owner took it to his local mechanic originally to have the car's
>loose end's
>tied up.  The mechanic ended up putting the timing belt on wrong,
>forgot the
>retaining disc on the crank and frayed some fuel pump wires.  From
>there, we
>were contracted to finish the car.  Thinking this was a simple timing belt
>replacement, we put everything back on and the car wouldn't fire.  What you
>read below is a detailed account of what we experienced afterwards...
>
>The first thing we did was check the spark plug order.  Sure enough, his
>mechanic reversed cylinder's 5 and 6 on the coil.  Still no start.
>
>The two cam sprocket marks were at 12 O' clock, matching the inner timing
>cover marks, the crank mark was at 5 O' clock, lined up with the
>mark on the
>oil pump housing, the belt's writing was facing away from me, the
>marks were
>lined up with both cams and the 3.0 mark on the crank.  Tension
>was applied.
>The car procedes to backfire when turning over.
>
>From there, we pulled the intake and valve covers.  The two cams
>on each bank
>of cylinders appear to be in time with each other.  When lined up,
>the marks
>are exactly opposite of each other.  So we put everything back on.
> Still no
>go.
>
>We think for a second that maybe the cam sensor is bad and we
>throw on a known
>good spare.  Still, nothing.  Here is what the car does have.  It
>has spark.
>I pulled a couple wires and checked.  We know we have that.  It has a tach
>signal and the tach works.  We have fuel (we think).  When
>pressing the valve,
>we get fuel.  It doesn't spray out, but it definetly is under pressure.
>Additionally to that, we have had the car running ONCE, albeit out of time.
>
>As a last ditch effort, we removed the Y pipe thinking perhaps the cats are
>clogged.  (We don't know the history on the Y pipe.  It appears to be used)
>There was no change.  The car is in time but it sounds like it's
>not.  As you
>can see, we are at our wits end.  I'm not too keen on being
>defeated by a car,
>especially two in one week.  (Speaking of which, Paul, Craig's control arms
>showed know signs of even beginning to move tonight. :>)   )  If
>you can offer
>ANY help here, even small, it is much appreciated.
>
>Common guys, teach me something here.  Point out something obvious that I
>missed.  I'm beginning to think that someone is trying to tell me
>I shouldn't
>be working on cars. :>)
>
>If you list something and that ends up being my problem, I will send (or
>Paypal) you a $25.00 check.  Obviously, it would go to the first person to
>mention the problem. :>)  I am an honest guy, or so I like to tell myself.
>
>~ Defeated SHO "Specialist"
>
>Mike Kopstain
>Midwest SHO Specialists
>827 North Chestnut Avenue
>Arlington Heights, IL 60004
>www.MidwestSHO.com
>Sales@midwestsho.com
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