[Shotimes] Help with LPM

shospeed@bigplanet.com shospeed@bigplanet.com
Sat, 22 Mar 2003 08:23:44 -0700 (MST)


And oh yeah, zero driveability problems, and 27 mpg to boot.  If only rod bearings were as reliable as my 80mm and LPM were:D

Toolman

>It's a trade-off....
>
>We either continue the flame topic, or we put up with the same number of
>stupid questions about drivability problems that can be solved by pulling
>those parts off the car.
>
>FWIW, I had an LPM and the 80mm MAF on my '89 as a part of the BOS package.
>It worked fine for me, but Mallinson's car ran the same with the same HP
>with a 77MM Pro-M MAF and no LPM.....which I like better with one less part
>to go wrong. Plus the addition of the MAF and LPM after I had the other
>parts installed gave virtually NO power increase that I could
>feel......there was "maybe" a bit over 6K, but no other gain. The dyno
>showed power over 6K, but the butt dyno can't feel it (read the HP & Torque
>Primer on the FAQ that I wrote years back).
>
>Plus, many of the later models have had "issues" with getting an LPM
>calibrated right (Vadim did the original calibration on his '89). It just
>ain't worth messin' with......spend the LPM money on suspension or brake
>parts, it's a better bang for the buck.
>
>Ron Porter
>'95 MTX: Koni/Eibachs, 24/26mm bars, aluminum SF bushings, '96 brake
>upgrade, proportioning valve plugs, 215/55/16 Firehawk tires on
>slicers........and an absolutely stock motor down to the paper filter
>element.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Don McKinnon (AST) [mailto:dmckinnon@asttechlabs.com]
>Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 6:05 PM
>To: Ron Porter; SHOtimes
>Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Help with LPM
>
>
>Ah Ron do we have to start this topic flame again <LOL>!
>
>Don McKinnon
>95 MTX - White/Mocha 90k miles
>Stage 1 Power Package with Stage 1cams
>Canyon Carver Road/Race Suspension
>Quaife & HiRevs Competition Clutch
>
> -----Original Message-----
>From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
>[mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Ron Porter
>Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 5:47 PM
>To: SHOtimes
>Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Help with LPM
>
>
>Hopefully someone can fulfill your request.
>
>However, FWIW from the old curmudgeon.....sell the LPM and 80mm MAF. Put the
>stock 55mm MAF back on....with the Y-pipe and UDPs the car will run better.
>No, don't go via "butt dyno", get on a Dynojet or do 1/4 mile runs.
>
>Opening the secondaries sooner is counterproductive. The idle works fine
>without resetting with the UDPs. If you really feel that you need to spend
>money on a MAF, go a calibrated Pro-M MAF and forget the LPM.
>
>Now, I am not against LPMs, but I feel that they have their value in heavily
>modified cars (Supercharger, turbocharger, big NOS hit, etc), but are a
>waste for basic bolt-on cars....it's just one more thing to go wrong, and
>gives no appreciable performance gain.
>
>Ron Porter
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
>[mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of SHOMail
>Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 6:11 PM
>To: SHOtimes
>Subject: [Shotimes] Help with LPM
>
>
>I have a Ted B. LPM which does not work
>after proper installation (fan turns on and vehicle will
>not start).  He and I are attempting
>at this time to determine if it is the LPM or the
>computer.  I do not know anyone with a GEN2 MTX
>in my area so I am looking for help.
>
>Is there anyone with a GEN2 MTX and currently running
>an LPM that would be willing to plug this thing in
>and see if it works ?  Keep in mind I have some mods
>that he programmed in for me but the thing should still
>start the car.
>
>This is what I had it programmed for:
>X2J ECU, 80mm MAF, raised idle for UDPs, Y-Pipe,
>lower RPM for secondaries to open, 155lph fuel pump.
>
>I will send it to you with some $$ to send it back to me.
>
>Thanks,
>Chad L
>92 Red MTX
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