[Shotimes] M3 vs. GSX part 2 (long)

[Paul Nimz]

Most V8s are a 90 degree motor.  The 3.4L is a 2.5L Duratec V6  (ala
Contour) that has two cylinders grafted on it, hence it is a 60 degree
motor.  Takes away from the inherent smoothness of the normal V8.

So where would a person find info on the mentioned kits?

Paul Nimz
'97 TR SHO
'93 EG mtx SHO





----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill Murray" <fordsho@cloud9grafx.com>
To: "'Ron Porter'" <ronporter@prodigy.net>; "SHOTimes"
<shotimes@autox.team.net>; <pmnimz@v8sho.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 12:11 PM
Subject: RE: [Shotimes] M3 vs. GSX part 2 (long)


> Isn't it very uncommon for a V8 to have balance shafts to begin with?  I
> always heard the more cylinders, the smoother the engine, but an inline
> engine is smoother than a V style.  There are balance shaft removal kits
> sold for the DSMs and Conquest/Starion's, maybe see what they include to
> get an idea of what might be needed for the V8.
>
> Bill Murray
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ron Porter [mailto:ronporter@prodigy.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 10:15 AM
> To: 'Bill Murray'; 'Paul Nimz'; 'SHOTimes'
> Subject: RE: [Shotimes] M3 vs. GSX part 2 (long)
>
> Thinking about it again, the balance may end up being OK, but the engine
> will not be smooth. It will shake just like a........60-degree V8.
>
> Ron Porter
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
> [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
> On Behalf Of Bill Murray
> Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 1:42 AM
> To: 'Paul Nimz'; SHOTimes
> Subject: RE: [Shotimes] M3 vs. GSX part 2 (long)
>
>
> Removing rotating mass can't hurt to get HP.  Though I guess it could
> shake your engine to pieces which might be a bad thing.  ;)  Don't you
> have an extra engine laying around collecting dust?  Sounds like a
> summer project.
>
> Bill Murray
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
> [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Paul Nimz
> Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 1:14 AM
> To: Bill Murray; SHOTimes
> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] M3 vs. GSX part 2 (long)
>
> You mean if I remove the balance shaft from my '97 I can gain HP???????
>
> Paul Nimz
> '97 TR SHO
> '93 EG mtx SHO
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bill Murray" <fordsho@cloud9grafx.com>
> To: "'Randy Smith'" <RandyMTU98@comcast.net>; "SHOTimes"
> <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 6:47 PM
> Subject: RE: [Shotimes] M3 vs. GSX part 2 (long)
>
>
> > Just on observation on his accout...  One of the common first mods on
> a
> > DSM is to remove the balance shafts, I've heard gain of 20 or more hp
> is
> > not unreasonable.  If hes push 450 at the crank, why does he still
> have
> > the balance shafts, seems a little strange to me.
> >
> > Bill Murray
>
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