[Shotimes] M3 vs. GSX part 2 (long)

[Steve Tatro]

I believe it has to do with the angle.  

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From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
[mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bill Murray
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 1:12 PM
To: 'Ron Porter'; SHOTimes; pmnimz@V8SHO.com
Subject: RE: [Shotimes] M3 vs. GSX part 2 (long)


Isn't it very uncommon for a V8 to have balance shafts to begin with?  I
always heard the more cylinders, the smoother the engine, but an inline
engine is smoother than a V style.  There are balance shaft removal kits
sold for the DSMs and Conquest/Starion's, maybe see what they include to
get an idea of what might be needed for the V8.

Bill Murray

-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Porter [mailto:ronporter@prodigy.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 10:15 AM
To: 'Bill Murray'; 'Paul Nimz'; 'SHOTimes'
Subject: RE: [Shotimes] M3 vs. GSX part 2 (long)

Thinking about it again, the balance may end up being OK, but the engine
will not be smooth. It will shake just like a........60-degree V8.

Ron Porter 

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On Behalf Of Bill Murray
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 1:42 AM
To: 'Paul Nimz'; SHOTimes
Subject: RE: [Shotimes] M3 vs. GSX part 2 (long)


Removing rotating mass can't hurt to get HP.  Though I guess it could
shake your engine to pieces which might be a bad thing.  ;)  Don't you
have an extra engine laying around collecting dust?  Sounds like a
summer project.

Bill Murray

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From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
[mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Paul Nimz
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 1:14 AM
To: Bill Murray; SHOTimes
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] M3 vs. GSX part 2 (long)

You mean if I remove the balance shaft from my '97 I can gain HP???????

Paul Nimz
'97 TR SHO
'93 EG mtx SHO


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From: "Bill Murray" <fordsho@cloud9grafx.com>
To: "'Randy Smith'" <RandyMTU98@comcast.net>; "SHOTimes"
<shotimes@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 6:47 PM
Subject: RE: [Shotimes] M3 vs. GSX part 2 (long)


> Just on observation on his accout...  One of the common first mods on
a
> DSM is to remove the balance shafts, I've heard gain of 20 or more hp
is
> not unreasonable.  If hes push 450 at the crank, why does he still
have
> the balance shafts, seems a little strange to me.
>
> Bill Murray

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